Tour de France 2020 | Stage 17 (Grenoble - Méribel Col de la Loze, 170 km)

[Salvarani]

With 3.5 k to go, we had 14 guys in the lead group.

look at those time gaps

Thats probably why everybody waited for that part. No one wanted to spend more than they had to before it.

 

[Poursuivant]

Evil climb that, tired just watching them.
Looks like Roglic has this boxed off.

 

[Broccolidwarf]

You were vindicated from yesterday’s thread where they attacked you about this climb and CAS comments though, monster climb

I don’t profess great knowledge, but over time I have learned what commentators and experts usually get it right

 

[Gigs_98]

Yeah. Angrilu and Zoncolon cause a lot bigger gaps. Been a weird year

Actually they don't. Zoncolan and Angliru in particular are often pretty overrated in terms of gaps

 

[DFA123]

Thats probably why everybody waited for that part. No one wanted to spend more than they had to before it.

Sometimes you have to risk losing in order to win though.

 

[Zoophonic]

Some of those “fans” on the slopes ought to be prosecuted getting so close with no masks on. Ridiculous

 

[LaFlorecita]

Grande Superman! Deserved win

 

[ice&fire]

Overrated Colombian outclimbs the two Slovenian guys who shone in a weak Vuelta

 

[Fergoose]

Very well ridden by the top 3. Pogacar was right to gamble on getting Roglic's wheel at the end, even though it might have cost him quite a few seconds after then blowing up.

A little mystified by Kuus, guess he overestimated what he had left in the tank and it left Roglic isolated.

I wonder if the plan was for Lopez to bridge over to Izagurre on the Madeleine, but that that went out of the window when Bahrain ran a good tempo.

Porte vs Lopez for the podium now is a nice showdown.

 

[perico]

#FreeKuss will overtake #FreeLanda soon. He reminds me so much of Andy Hampsten in the mountains.

 

[hfer07]

at last!!!
finally good fortune smiles at MAL

 

[Mayomaniac]

Yeah. Angrilu and Zoncolon cause a lot bigger gaps. Been a weird year

With the Zoncolan it's the easier final 2 km, those who are stronger on the steep stuff/have something left in the tank can push a bigger gear and the gaps increase.
That said, I prefer to ride stuff like the Zoncolan where you can actually ride/grind at a constant rhythm instead of walls after walls like this, reminds me of the final km of Forcella Zovo.

 

[Brullnux]

Yeah. Angrilu and Zoncolon cause a lot bigger gaps. Been a weird year

Not really, Zoncolan had less than 2 minutes in the top 10 last time out, Angliru the same in 2017, and even 2011 had small groups, likewise 2013. Think your memory is tricking you

 

[Big Doopie]

can richie beat lopez by enough in the TT to podium...?

 

[SafeBet]

Roglič extends his lead to almost one minute in GC. It's not over yet, but hard to see him losing yellow unless he's got a very bad day tomorrow.

I understand why Bahrein are being made fun of, but props to them for trying something different.

 

[Red Rick]

I don’t profess great knowledge, but over time I have learned what commentators and experts usually get it right

The profile lied

 

[Luthor]

Congrats for Lopez, amazing win, well deserved.
As for Roglic, he did his best. Kuss was amazing but his help wasn't that much, not sure why he attacked.

 

[Valv.Piti]

Overrated Colombian outclimbs the two Slovenian guys who shone in a weak Vuelta

The weak Vuelta that had the 3 best climbers in this race + a flying Vuelta-Valverde, lol. Pretty funny

 

[topt]

Not today obviously, but he has something to say this week!!

when ? he will lose time in TT

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

Well done MAL.
Landa gave it a go, but just didn’t have it.
Roglic now looks like he has Yellow bar a big collapse
Pogacar fought hard and clever but is just marginally weaker than Roglic.
Sepp Kuss may be the strongest climber in the world lol

 

[titan31]

Actually they don't. Zoncolan and Angliru in particular are often pretty overrated in terms of gaps

I remember the year Basso won it, and gaps were huge back then as he rode it hard from long out

 

[Broccolidwarf]

Very well ridden by the top 3. Pogacar was right to gamble on getting Roglic's wheel at the end, even though it might have cost him quite a few seconds after then blowing up.

A little mystified by Kuus, guess he overestimated what he had left in the tank and it left Roglic isolated.

I wonder if the plan was for Lopez to bridge over to Izagurre on the Madeleine, but that that went out of the window when Bahrain ran a good tempo.

Porte vs Lopez for the podium now is a nice showdown.

I think Roglic told Kuss to go, to later bridge the gap.

The important part was putting time into Pogacar, who is a threat on the TT.

 

[huangho]

It seems that there will be a lot of riders OTL today...

 

[Mayomaniac]

Not really, Zoncolan had less than 2 minutes in the top 10 last time out, Angliru the same in 2017, and even 2011 had small groups, likewise 2013. Think your memory is tricking you

Put a climb that is as hard as Madeleine before the Zoncolan (Crostis plz) and the gaps are bigger.

 

[Brullnux]

The profile lied

The profile didn’t lie, it’s just that at the end of the day the best way to understand how hard a climb is isn’t a profile but actually riding it. Other reports said a similar thing, that it is insanely irregular and that’s what makes it truly that hard