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We're comparing GT palmares to GT palmares. He's done almost nothing his entire career.
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To be fair, LS didn't compare their palmares, but the excitement they bring. To be honest he/she is right for Porte's GT attempts as a leader. He doesn't bring much to the excitement. But I rate also other races beside the GTs. Other smaller races are important to me as well as a cycling fan. I don't care much about Porte but I can remember some of his strong attacks in PN or Romandie for example.
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- May 5, 2010
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Gotta continue the research then.
Maybe someone can help. Unfortunately, I can't!
Well, he could send you the video material so you can draw conclusions yourself, but I'm not sure you want him to do that.
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Doesn't have to be closeups. Just a series of videos of him falling over; if there is a loud, squeaky noise... I shall draw my own conclusions!
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Thomas de Gendt was the only rider whose GC position didn't change today compared to yesterday.
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Alaphilippe now has five Tour stage wins. 
At 28, not being a sprinter - pretty good.
At 28, not being a sprinter - pretty good.
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Yeah I'm not too impressed by Lil' Richie's Roubaix results either.No, we aren't. Maybe you are.
There is more to cycling than GTs, RR!
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People seem concerned (if that's the correct word) about Jumbo when Ineos went to the front. Their two GC men in Dumo and Rogo finished in the main bunch. Am I daft thinking their doms were maybe just saving their beans?
This isn't like any other year and maybe caution in the first grandy isn't a bad idea?
I shall say though, I only watched the last 25km
This isn't like any other year and maybe caution in the first grandy isn't a bad idea?
I shall say though, I only watched the last 25km
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Wout apparently heard saying "I need to go slower" and so they loaded him up with addition weight
View: https://twitter.com/sporza_koers/status/1300042387088117760?s=20
View: https://twitter.com/sporza_koers/status/1300042387088117760?s=20
- Mar 13, 2015
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Oh I agree...Matthews is the one to deliver and I was amased as to why they left himout of the Tour..I was just saying their tactics which are inexplicable
Anyway he is now leaving the team!!!!
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Could be. They wouldn't be the only ones to do it. I guess the full train wasn't necessary, WvA helped Dumoulin after his crash, and did the entire penultimate lap
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Top-tenning without being seen was the amazing skill of Zubeldia.
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Yep, Zubeldia is easily better GT rider than Porte
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Hold up, I know the Zubeldia meme and I have only watched highlights of 2007, but you are not telling me he finished that Tour 4th. Just no f*cking way. I couldn't have told you he was even in the race.
Actually Pinot and Porte are very similar points- and careerwise. Porte just got bit more points from GC than Pinot. Lots of empty barrells making noise, shall we.. Let's see how it folds this time.
Alaphilippe superb again, what a player.
Let's see how it folds this time.Alaphilippe superb again, what a player.
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Pinot is serious rider, classy. Porte, not so...Actually Pinot and Porte are very similar points- and careerwise. Porte just got bit more points from GC than Pinot. Lots of empty barrells making noise, shall we..
Alaphilippe superb again, what a player.
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Pinot is almost always prominent until he decides some calamity or another should befall him. Porte is usually just kind of there until he isn't, and when he does crash out it's often before a reasonable guide to his form can be seen.
Many races have been better for Pinot being in them. I can't possibly comprehend that anybody other than a myopic Aussie has ever looked at a GC battle at any Grand Tour and thought "you know what, that race would have been better with Richie Porte in it". He just retreats into his shell in three week races when he's the leader, much like Valverde. He's a much more active, much more proactive, much more dynamic racer in short stage races, but in the GTs he completely forgets that side of him exists. Either that or he's so paralysed by fear of losing time that he's too scared to try to gain it.
He would need a DS committee of Jacky Durand, Aleksandr Vinokourov and the ghost of Frank Vandenbroucke to wring anything interesting from him in a Grand Tour. He's been touted as a GT rider for a decade now, yet his record is no better than Ronan Pensec or Walter Riccomi's. He's a great one week rider, and he's now 35. At what point is he going to stop banging his head against the three week wall?
Many races have been better for Pinot being in them. I can't possibly comprehend that anybody other than a myopic Aussie has ever looked at a GC battle at any Grand Tour and thought "you know what, that race would have been better with Richie Porte in it". He just retreats into his shell in three week races when he's the leader, much like Valverde. He's a much more active, much more proactive, much more dynamic racer in short stage races, but in the GTs he completely forgets that side of him exists. Either that or he's so paralysed by fear of losing time that he's too scared to try to gain it.
He would need a DS committee of Jacky Durand, Aleksandr Vinokourov and the ghost of Frank Vandenbroucke to wring anything interesting from him in a Grand Tour. He's been touted as a GT rider for a decade now, yet his record is no better than Ronan Pensec or Walter Riccomi's. He's a great one week rider, and he's now 35. At what point is he going to stop banging his head against the three week wall?
To be fair. He did not finish 4th. He moved up after Leipheimers conviction.
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I'm not sure I've ever been this triggered in my life.Actually Pinot and Porte are very similar points- and careerwise. Porte just got bit more points from GC than Pinot. Lots of empty barrells making noise, shall we..
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Even in other stage races, he's usually just there unless he's the strongest and then he just flies away and it's never exciting, apart from one time he just wheelsucked Contador to a Catalunya win.
I'm shocked that JA won this stage that didn't suit him nor did anyone think that he could win it!
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