Tour de France Tour de France 2021, Stage 13: Nîmes – Carcassonne, 219.9 km

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Bank on the sprint, but don't chase. They already have a successful Tour, so they could easily sit back.

It's a risk though, if DQS don't have the legs to control it all day, and it's a long stage, then you run the risk of not getting the sprint at all.
 
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It's a risk though, if DQS don't have the legs to control it all day, and it's a long stage, then you run the risk of not getting the sprint at all.
It's a break of three riders. And QS risks more by not getting the sprint at all, so they will control the finale.
 
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It's a break of three riders. And QS risks more by not getting the sprint at all, so they will control the finale.

For sure, but there is psychology at play as well. Alpecin helping gives Philipsen a boost, it says we back you, this stage is yours. That's got to be a boost to a young rider. Conversely, fart about in the peloton and leave everything to DQS says, best tire out the DQS train just to give Philipsen a chance won't fill a young rider with the confidence he needs to have a sniff at beating Cav.
 
Jun 12, 2016
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ITV commentators discussing the relevance of the White Jersey, considering the new age of young riders who are already strong enough for yellow.

When you look at it, in the last 30 years only Pogacar, Bernal, Contador and Ullrich have won white and yellow in the same year. That hardly suggests the jersey is irrelevant.

The most obvious solution is to exclude previous Tour champions from contesting the jersey. Seeing Pogacar and Bernal potentially fighting for white next year would be silly.
 
Oct 1, 2014
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ITV commentators discussing the relevance of the White Jersey, considering the new age of young riders who are already strong enough for yellow.

When you look at it, in the last 30 years only Pogacar, Bernal, Contador and Ullrich have won white and yellow in the same year. That hardly suggests the jersey is irrelevant.

The most obvious solution is to exclude previous Tour champions from contesting the jersey. Seeing Pogacar and Bernal potentially fighting for white next year would be silly.

Maybe it should be the Best Rookie jersey, only guys who are in their first tour can compete for it? How many riders this year are in their first tour?
 
May 19, 2011
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For sure, but there is psychology at play as well. Alpecin helping gives Philipsen a boost, it says we back you, this stage is yours. That's got to be a boost to a young rider. Conversely, fart about in the peloton and leave everything to DQS says, best tire out the DQS train just to give Philipsen a chance won't fill a young rider with the confidence he needs to have a sniff at beating Cav.
Nicely put.
 
Jul 13, 2012
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Maybe it should be the Best Rookie jersey, only guys who are in their first tour can compete for it? How many riders this year are in their first tour?

Not sure how many but thats Vingegaard in the lead for best first year result
 
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ITV commentators discussing the relevance of the White Jersey, considering the new age of young riders who are already strong enough for yellow.

When you look at it, in the last 30 years only Pogacar, Bernal, Contador and Ullrich have won white and yellow in the same year. That hardly suggests the jersey is irrelevant.

The most obvious solution is to exclude previous Tour champions from contesting the jersey. Seeing Pogacar and Bernal potentially fighting for white next year would be silly.
the most obvious solution is to lower it to under 24 or 23. There is almost no sport in the world where 25 yr old or 24yr olds are considered young....
 
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Jun 10, 2017
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I don't really agree. I know plenty of roads around where I often ride, that pretty much always have wind from a certain direction. I think you can definitely design routes with echelon possibilities in mind.

Whether or not it materialises depends on some luck and the racing of course, but it's not just up to chance.
I understand prevailing winds, and yes there are similar roads where I ride. And yes you can plan routes with wind in mind.

Where I have a problem is ASO have designed several stages this year, at least 3 or 4, where if the wind don't blow, there's nothing to see here. If there was only a 10% chance of the mountain being there, they wouldn't race up the Ventoux. I love an echelon stage, and I don't mind a sprint stage, but, especially at this stage of the Tour, I like the break having a chance of making it, and right now these guys off the front have no chance.
 
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Sean Bennett is working for the Most Combative of the Day prize.


...and he's popped himself and the other 2 are off up the road without him.
 

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