Tour de France Tour de France 2021, Stage 17: Muret – Saint-Lary-Soulan Col du Portet, 178.4 km

[sir fly]

So the KOM contenders will take advantage of GC teams today?
If so, they ain't gonna score the maximum.

 

[Netserk]

Who do QuickStep think they are?

Well, that's road racing.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Alaphilippe will win from a break, which also includes G. Martin, Perez, Gaudu, Madouas, Armirail, Latour, Cosnefroy, Paret-Peintre, Elissonde, Bernard, Gesbert, Pacher, Rolland and Meintjes.

At least Perez made it. Bernard will probably sit up soon.

 

[Red Rick]

I hate this road block tactics. But it is probably just cycling...

It's a disgrace is what it is. It's like diving in football. It's there but really shouldn't be.

 

[dercuforever]

It could make sense for Movistar who might hope for a stage victory if Mas has a magical day. QuickStep only do it because Cavendish is weak when the road rises, so a slow tempo means a longer time limit. Or maybe to prevent Matthews to get ahead, but please...

nope, lower speed = lower time limit :

• below 30km/h 7%
• below 31km/h 8%
• below 32km/h 9%
• below 33km/h 10%
• below 34km/h 11%
• below 35km/h 12%
• below 36km/h 13%
• below 37km/h 14%
• below 38km/h 15%
• below 39km/h 16%
• below 40km/h 17%

I hope this backfire ...

 

[FjPavels]

this should be forbidden ...

this reminds me of football, and why goalkeepers are no longer allowed to use their hands and pick up the ball when the ball is passed to them...

 

[Valv.Piti]

It's a disgrace is what it is. It's like diving in football. It's there but really shouldn't be.

Agree, its destructive, but what can you do about it?

 

[Netserk]

It's a disgrace is what it is. It's like diving in football. It's there but really shouldn't be.

Also a disgrace that the other riders won't move to make space if you are far back in the peloton before Kwaremont in De Ronde.

 

[BlueRoads]

Also I don't know if the tv people who commentate on cycling are any better. Usually they all tell only things I already know or that I even know better, although I am certainly not the most insightful person. The best cycling expert on German tv in recent years is Aldag for me, who gets the fact right and usually doesn't say anything stupid regarding tactics - nonetheless he hardly ever brings in anything I could not have said or thought myself, so it's not like I'm learning much or understand things better - it's just that you don't have the nuisance of having a so-called expert tell ridiculous things. But when I have questions like "why are they doing this now?" Aldag rarely helps me out, either he doesn't know himself or he knows but doesn't talk about it.

But then you really have to wonder who watches these races. The questions from viewers that they answer are always the same, often they repeat it like three times within three weeks, it's absolute basics, never anything I have wondered about myself. That's probably the audience they are targeting because that's the majority: people who hardly ever watch bike races and can't google.

It's not like the commentary on smaller races is much better, though, in fact it's often even worse because they put in the "lesser" commentators and they tell you the same phrases and clichés over and over.

 

[Earns1985]

So pretty weak break compared to the last days..
Will they do it to the end? I think only when they have more then 15 minutes before the road starts to rise..

 

[Red Rick]

Also a disgrace that the other riders won't move to make space if you are far back in the peloton before Kwaremont in De Ronde.

That's just a false equivalence.

 

[sir fly]

Also I don't know if the tv people who commentate on cycling are any better. Usually they all tell only things I already know or that I even know better, although I am certainly not the most insightful person. The best cycling expert on German tv in recent years is Aldag for me, who gets the fact right and usually doesn't say anything stupid regarding tactics - nonetheless he hardly ever brings in anything I could not have said or thought myself, so it's not like I'm learning much or understand things better - it's just that you don't have the nuisance of having a so-called expert tell ridiculous things. But when I have questions like "why are they doing this now?" Aldag rarely helps me out, either he doesn't know himself or he knows but doesn't talk about it.

But then you really have to wonder who watches these races. The questions from viewers that they answer are always the same, often they repeat it like three times within three weeks, it's absolute basics, never anything I have wondered about myself. That's probably the audience they are targeting because that's the majority: people who hardly ever watch bike races and can't google.

It's not like the commentary on smaller races is much better, though, in fact it's often even worse because they put in the "lesser" commentators and they tell you the same phrases and clichés over and over.

That's why you're here.

 

[Netserk]

That's just a false equivalence.

That riders won't move to make space for others? Do you want them to have a bell they can ring where the rider in front is ordered to move to the side?

If you don't want wind on your face, you cannot demand a clear road in front of you.

Let's be clear, they are not braking at the front of the peloton and they are not dangerous. They ride slowly and mostly they are just keeping their place.

 

[gregrowlerson]

Go Postlberger!

Go roadblocking!

 

[Mayomaniac]

For a high mountain stage that's a pack fodder breakaway.

 

[dercuforever]

Pogacar to win the stage, put mark OTL, also win tomorrow and saturday, and win yellow, white, polka and green ?
I'd do this ... on PCM.

 

[Laplaz]

Pöstlberger to double up for Austria!

 

[saganftw]

Pogacar to win the stage, put mark OTL, also win tomorrow and saturday, and win yellow, white, polka and green ?
I'd do this ... on PCM.

cant do that even in PCM in TdF, however AI did it with Pogacar in Vuelta - preview of things to come???

 

[dercuforever]

wow Crushweak crushed himself ... he never came back to his old self sadly.

 

[BlueRoads]

That's why you're here.

It is.

 

[glassmoon]

All this roadblocking by DQS... I hope Cav gets put OTL.

Crushweak abandons

 

[Krokro]

Gonna be a walk in the parc for Pogi, even Steven K's done

 

[sir fly]

How many with Vingegaard now?
3?

 

[luckyboy]

Has Kruijswijk been any help anyway? I've never seen him on the front

 

[Tinnekeisabella]

Abandon Kruyswijk….Jumbo left with 4 riders