Tour de France Tour de France 2021, Stage 3: Lorient - Pontivy, 183.9 km

[Broccolidwarf]

yep,it was like "I hardly even touched you, get up you pussy"

You people are just..... beyond.

 

[Volderke]

The bump he did, we can see it, but the gesture he did afterward speaks volumes about him.

How would you feel if you almost crashed because your bars entangled?
It was a combination of being scared, angry, stressed and disappointed someone crashed, all at the same time.

 

[Valv.Piti]

While a prologue or short TT as a stage 1 wont solve the entire problem, theres definitely some merit to it. We know how the first week goes. If you at the same time can throw in some very hard hilly stage (like the one in England) or some mountanios stages (like we ones we saw in Nice) as stage 2 and 3, you could GREATLY reduce all of this stress.

 

[victorschipolrijk]

At this rate, Fuglsang ends up winning the Tour, without ever riding GC

Well, we can't say it is not an exciting Tour, when even folks that are not riding it have a chance to win

 

[Broccolidwarf]

you are joking right, who was it directed at ?

How the fcuk should I know?

You are the one who claims to have telepathic abilities - not I.

 

[topt]

How would you feel if you almost crashed because your bars entangled?
It was a combination of being scared, angry, stressed and disappointed someone crashed, all at the same time.

what bars entagled, where do you get this, watch the video its clear as day, bodycheck period

https://twitter.com/x/status/1409570188786286596

View: https://twitter.com/laflammerouge16/status/1409570188786286596?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1409570188786286596%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fforum.cyclingnews.com%2Fthreads%2Ftour-de-france-2021-stage-3-lorient-pontivy-183-9-km.37067%2Fpage-27

 

[MartinGT]

Just watched the highlights with Millar. Man the dude is another Ineos fan boy. He has the horn for Thomas asking where he was all the time.

 

[bajbar]

I dont know if this is serious or not. Eliminate flat stages? Sure that will work. Sorry Paris, you had a nice run but its over lol

Start the race with at least two stages that separate rider by STRENGHT. And I mean real separation. Like Vuelta last year. We had about 6 contenders left after the first three stages. And then you can have as many flat stages as you want. But the 20 GC contenders who are already out of the game will not try to be in the top 30 positions in the peloton at 5km to go. The problem with the Tour is that the race starts with a flat week - and about 30 riders think that they are good enough to podium the Tour. And they are all determined not to lose a single second on flat stages. Add to that 15 sprinters, who are fresh and gearing up for the first sprint finish - each thinking that they are the fastest. A recipe for disaster on any route, especially bad surfaced narrow downhill one...

Last year the Tour had two mountain stages in the first four stages. And it was far less crashes there. And the aformentioned Vuelta 2020 - basically no huge crashes in the whole race.

 

[topt]

How the fcuk should I know?

You are the one who claims to have telepathic abilities - not I.

Looks at Roglic, than makes the gesture but it was directed to Kim Kardashian, right....

 

[MartinGT]

what bars entagled, where do you get this, watch the video its clear as day, bodycheck period

https://twitter.com/x/status/1409570188786286596

View: https://twitter.com/laflammerouge16/status/1409570188786286596?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1409570188786286596%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fforum.cyclingnews.com%2Fthreads%2Ftour-de-france-2021-stage-3-lorient-pontivy-183-9-km.37067%2Fpage-27

When I've just seen the highlights straight away I said that was a body check.

 

[Broccolidwarf]

Looks at Roglic, than makes the gesture but it was directed to Kim Kardashian, right....

Well buddy, since that is the first - and only - alternative you can come up with, I think we are done here

 

[saunaking]

While a prologue or short TT as a stage 1 wont solve the entire problem, theres definitely some merit to it. We know how the first week goes. If you at the same time can throw in some very hard hilly stage (like the one in England) or some mountanios stages (like we ones we saw in Nice) as stage 2 and 3, you could GREATLY reduce all of this stress.

I really don't see how a prologue or short TT would change anything from today. Nobody was really racing to take yellow today. The time gaps from stages 1 and 2 are way greater than any prologue would have created.

 

[Lequack]

UAE paying Colbrelli to take out the competition. Smart.

 

[Kaptain Kool]

I fully understood your position, if any GC rider - ever - had pulled off some tactical masterstroke, on a flat stage with no wind, in the last 10K - and taken significant time on GC.

Otherwise it's like requiring sprinters, to be with the GC group until 3K from the top of every climb, if they want to be in contention for green......

......a pointless exercise.

Also you should note, nothing is stopping GC teams from still taking part in the fun - they just no longer HAVE to.

No, the farther you move out the GC safety zone means the less GC riders need to fight to stay in the front to avoid splits, which IMHO is part of being a good GC rider. And it's what separates top GC riders from riders like Richie Porte, who can ITT and climb with the best but isn't good at anything else required to race.

 

[MartinGT]

Carapaz got in the way at the end. Sagan forced him to move out.

I don't know what the answer is really. I don't see how a prologue will calm things down. Sprint stages are just messy. The crashes today. Thomas not concentrating.
Rogo not sure about that.
Demare group. That was going into the corner too hot. Was there signage?
Ewan and Sagan. Ewan clipped a wheel. So was it bad course design or just racing incidents?

 

[Leinster]

F*** prologues. Wont solve much with riders separated by 30 seconds. Could make it even worse with more riders (potentially) seeing themselves a chance for a stint in yellow.

Put for once a proper 30 km TT for a start.

The last time they started with an ITT, Valverde spun out in the rain on a fast corner and smashed his femur.

And in 2019, vanAert caught his bars on a barrier in a TT. And don't forget JC Perraud smashing himself out of the 2013 Tour.

Ban all time trials, I say.

 

[Volderke]

what bars entagled, where do you get this, watch the video its clear as day, bodycheck period

https://twitter.com/x/status/1409570188786286596

View: https://twitter.com/laflammerouge16/status/1409570188786286596?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1409570188786286596%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fforum.cyclingnews.com%2Fthreads%2Ftour-de-france-2021-stage-3-lorient-pontivy-183-9-km.37067%2Fpage-27

Colbrelli said bars were entangled. I tend to believe Colbrelli rather than footage that doesn't even show the actual contact.
And it's clear from the way Roglic falls, that he is losing balance very suddenly. This can only be due to something like entangled bars, and / or overlapping wheels.
According to Colbrelli, Roglic tried to move up. So Roglic was probably not exactly on the same height as Colbrelli.

 

[Broccolidwarf]

This reminds me of when all the hysterics let loose, when they thought Sagan had taken Cavendish out on purpose, so ASO felt pressure to kick Sagan out...... and then later video emerged, that proved Sagan was entirely without blame, after he had gotten kicked out.

Drama queens ruin cycling

 

[Valv.Piti]

I really don't see how a prologue or short TT would change anything from today. Nobody was really racing to take yellow today. The time gaps from stages 1 and 2 are way greater than any prologue would have created.

Hence why I said what else you can do. But you make a very good point which is the tricky part and a huge problem. But generally, stage 1 is THE most nervous stage, especially if it isnt any hard. So simply by opening with a prologue you can eliminate that extreme tension on the first day, but you still have some troubles the next.

 

[victorschipolrijk]

No it doesn't, because you have no idea what it meant, or who it was directed at.

You are basically just making *** up.

So, you think it was directed to somebody else, and not to Roglic??

 

[Volderke]

Volderke, how on earth did you see their bar close to be entangled???
Can you post a video, gif, anything??

Colbrelli's twitter.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1409585188191936532

View: https://twitter.com/BHRVictorious/status/1409585188191936532?s=20

 

[victorschipolrijk]

Heat of the moment, as if he was pissed that Rog actually fell from the bump

Really???
You got boundless imagination.

 

[MartinGT]

A prologue imo doesn't solve anything. The next day it's still the same, riders are wanting the win.

 

[topt]

Colbrelli said bars were entangled. I tend to believe Colbrelli rather than footage that doesn't even show the actual contact.
And it's clear from the way Roglic falls, that he is losing balance very suddenly. This can only be due to something like entangled bars, and / or overlapping wheels.
According to Colbrelli, Roglic tried to move up. So Roglic was probably not exactly on the same height as Colbrelli.

you tend to believe Colbrelli over video and Roglic, he falls exactly like if you are bodychecked

 

[Broccolidwarf]

No, the farther you move out the GC safety zone means the less GC riders need to fight to stay in the front to avoid splits, which IMHO is part of being a good GC rider. And it's what separates top GC riders from riders like Richie Porte, who can ITT and climb with the best but isn't good at anything else required to race.

Cool, so remind me, when did such a split occur within the last 10K of a bunch spinters stage - and had a significant impact on GC?