Tour de France Tour de France 2021, Stage 5: Changé – Laval Espace Mayenne, 27.2 km (ITT)

[Anderis]

Valgren finished 57th out of 177 riders. He was the lowest classified EF rider.

 

[Ramira]

Pogacar jumped the start, not sure what the penalty would be.

I don't think you can 'jump' the start anymore. As far as I know there's a sensor at the start and the time starts when you cross that. The countdown is just to make sure the riders start at the correct time gaps.

 

[Broccolidwarf]

If Vingegaard hadn't been caught up with Primoz in that late stage 3 crash, who knows where he would be right now on GC?

I know:

He would be 5th, same time as Alaphilippe, 40 seconds down on Pogacar

 

[BlueRoads]

So, who do you consider the biggest threat to Pogacar? Vingegaard, Latour or Lutsenko?

 

[Big Doopie]

Someone is just going to need to be brave, I think both Carapaz and a Roglic not interested in 2nd both have it in their locker.

true perhaps for Rog.

I think Carapaz would be thrilled to make the TDF podium on his first GC try. It would also have him on the podium of all three GTs.

 

[memyselfandI]

Crazy good tt that was! And it's going to produce great race onwards as others need to attack now so hard, actually Ineos that is, looking forward something like Giro 2020. G is D this time, R is T this time (which R you might ask) let's see how it goes..Pogi is Pogi unfortunately.

 

[spalco]

So, who do you consider the biggest threat to Pogacar? Vingegaard, Latour or Lutsenko?

Not Latour.

Maybe Uran, or still Carapaz. But it's all a long shot at this point clearly.

 

[HelloDolly]

When are the echleons ??

Ineos will try there

 

[kingjr]

Not the best pic I could find, but still...

 

[Rackham]

The problem is they are already too far behind, and Roglič is not going to get back to 100% this Tour. Those wounds just take too much energy to recover from.

I do think that both Carapaz and Roglič (if he can recover somewhat) will attack Pogačar, I just don't think they can challenge him unless he has a truly bad day, worse than he's had for a few years now.

Blow the race up 100km from the finish in the mountains. Send van Aert to set a monster tempo (as punishment for his selfishness) & form an alliance between JV, Ineos & Movistar.

I half jest of course (i.e. Pogacar is unbeatable), but these teams need to get a grip of their tactics & appreciate the fact the fight for the top 3 is real, demands work from the entire team committed to the task.

I knew it was weird when I read from various Jumbo sources weeks ago about their week 1 plan to get van Aert in yellow (i.e. why on earth is wasting energy for such B.S. helpful?), but I didn't think they'd actually go through with that plan - even after Roglic crashed. Idiots.

In any case, if Roglic can recover somewhat, we'll get an interesting fight for second.

 

[Broccolidwarf]

So, who do you consider the biggest threat to Pogacar? Vingegaard, Latour or Lutsenko?

Vingegaard will not get to ride GC, unless Roglic bombs out completely - and if that happens, there is a chance Vingegaard will lose a lot of time on that stage, trying to save him - so I would count him out.

 

[kingjr]

My brain is hardly able to process the results.
Apart from Pogacar:
Vingegaard faster than everyone except for Pogacar and Küng.
Van der Poel faster than Asgreen and Porte.
Alaphilippe faster than most GC guys but still a lot slower than Vingegaard and van der Poel.
Guys like Hamilton, Nibali and Bilbao practically nowhere to be seen.
(And I'm not even talking about guys like Roglic and Thomas because we know their injuries.)

Asgreen beat VdP in a sprint, it's only fair that VdP now beats him in a TT.

 

[BlueRoads]

I have to say, van der Poel has been growing on me and the fact that his head can get as red as mine is another factor which can make me identify with him.

 

[cen]

Free Vingegaard!

 

[BlueRoads]

Okay, I was actually joking with Latour, Vingegaard and Lutsenko... but maybe I shouldn't have...

 

[Broccolidwarf]

Haha, TV2 saying WvA got a €175 fine yesterday - apparently for peeing on a spectator

 

[saunaking]

Does someone have a list with the GC standings of the suspected GC riders?
(I know I can make it myself, but if someone has one at hand...)

1. Pog

 

[BlueRoads]

Haha, TV2 saying WvA got a €175 fine yesterday - apparently for peeing on a spectator

Again?! Certainly that was about the last time?!

 

[Broccolidwarf]

I have to say, van der Poel has been growing on me and the fact that his head can get as red as mine is another factor which can make me identify with him.

Gingers have no soul!

 

[saganftw]

vingegaard might sneak on the podium,he has the form and jumbo doesnt have many options but to attack with both roglic and vingegaard and see who survives

 

[RedheadDane]

Haha, TV2 saying WvA got a €175 fine yesterday - apparently for peeing on a spectator

ON?

 

[BlueRoads]

Gingers have no soul!

Ah, I'm not really a ginger and neither is Mathieu... I should have said face.

 

[Broccolidwarf]

1. Pog

Sherlock? - Is that you?

 

[Ramira]

Blow the race up 100km from the finish in the mountains. Send van Aert to set a monster tempo (as punishment for his selfishness) & form an alliance between JV, Ineos & Movistar.

I half jest of course (i.e. Pogacar is unbeatable), but these teams need to get a grip of their tactics & appreciate the fact the fight for the top 3 is real, demands work from the entire team committed to the task.

I knew it was weird when I read from various Jumbo sources weeks ago about their week 1 plan to get van Aert in yellow (i.e. why on earth is wasting energy for such B.S. helpful?), but I didn't think they'd actually go through with that plan - even after Roglic crashed. Idiots.

In any case, if Roglic can recover somewhat, we'll get an interesting fight for second.

I agree that's what they should do. They need to isolate Pogačar early and force him to respond to every attack. It's the only chance they have to beat him at this stage. But as you said, it's very unlikely that will happen. Though I do think Carapaz is the kind of rider who is willing to take a risk and attack. I think the question is whether Thomas is willing to go along with it.

And Urán is a major wildcard as well. Though he already finished second in the Tour before, so he might be more willing to take a risk if he feels good enough to challenge for the win if Pogačar cracks somehow.

 

[Mayomaniac]

Not the best pic I could find, but still...

Too bad Bjarne never had Alpecin to take care of his hair...