Tour de France Tour de France 2022: Stage 10 (Morzine Les Portes du Soleil – Megève, 148.1k)

[T-Nielsen]

+31 minutes on this stage doesnt really bode well. Tomorrow is rough, but stage 12 is borderline impossible.

It is more of a classic mountain stage so he can hope for a more "normal" race with a huge gruppetto.

 

[FrontHeadlock]

Yes. The weird thing is that Pog himself seems to want it too so it wouldn't make him unhappy to keep it. I think Pog has been really dumb so far if he wanted any rest. But I guess he's like Wout and cannot help himself. He just wants it all

Pog seems to ride like someone who is painfully insecure.

On the positive side that makes one very competitive, but it does come at a cost.

 

[tobydawq]

I love the breakaway action in this Tour, especially compared to last year.

Okay, Jungels won from a long solo but you didn't get the feeling 50 kms out that the stage was decided like on the stages last year won by Konrad, Politt, Mohoric x 2 and Mollema (okay, maybe 50 is an exaggeration). I'm a fan of this edition!

 

[Samamba]

It is more of a classic mountain stage so he can hope for a more "normal" race with a huge gruppetto.

He got dropped alone on a cat 4 today...
Tbf, he typically has a hard time the day after a rest day but still, i really doubt he'll make it till the end of this Tour.

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

Of course, it is just pretty boring that he cant physically finish the race. Everyone should physically be able to finish going into it, as a PRO. IMO.

did he make the cut today in the end?

I agree though that DNFing four GTs in a row would be pretty bad

 

[roundabout]

It is more of a classic mountain stage so he can hope for a more "normal" race with a huge gruppetto.

Galibier (+Telegraphe) is 80 minutes + of climbing for the best with just 5km of downhill to rest. I doubt Ewan can manage that in the grupetto in the current shape

 

[Anderis]

Nah - It was the stupidity of Cort going into breaks on stage 2,3 and 4.

It's easy to talk about stupidity with hindsight but how could they know in advance who was going to be in a breakaway on stage 5 before it formed. Cort targetting to win that stage in advance would be a veeery long shot. I bet that if anything, they planned to go for Bettiol on that stage, even Rutsch or Bissegger seemed more suited for this kind of cobbles.
Cort going on so many breakaways early on was good publicity to the team that usually struggles to take stage wins so they needed to be relevant in some way.

 

[KZD]

Great win by Cort, well deserved

 

[postmanhat]

Well looks like Ewan made it, wasn't even that close; Not a good sign that his team left him tho, plus don't think he'll make the timecut in the 2 next stages.



I agree, I don't like it either, definitely with him also focussing on a WC he can't win. Let's not forget he was going to ride MSR, De Panne and G-W tho but then he got sick (but him not riding Frankfurt for example is just dumb). Well it's just De Buyst, he never had a super leadout because he didn't need it at all.

I'd forgotten about him getting sick for MSR. We'll have to agree to disagree about him needing a good leadout these days

Can't really see much point in him continuing the Tour now. There's maybe two stages left where he could feature? Maybe best to write it off as a block of training for the second half of the season.

 

[Sciatic]

Hmm, Froome loves the heat. Maybe he can actually do something the next couple of stages.

I think he’ll lose 20-30 minutes tomorrow.

 

[Danskebjerge]

Lol, Dennis Ritter must have been taught math by RedheadDane

They must have simply forgotten that it was 9 minutes he needed - not just 8. They had explained it correctly earlier on.

 

[Danskebjerge]

Nah - It was the stupidity of Cort going into breaks on stage 2,3 and 4.

That wasn't stupid. Wearing the KoM jersey for a week is a success unless you are a contender for the yellow jersey.

 

[Danskebjerge]

There really hasn't been a boring stage (=a breakaway consisting of less known riders sitting out there for 100 k and being caught with 10k to go) this year. In some editions of the Tour there would have been 5 or 6 of those already.

 

[Netserk]

There really hasn't been a boring stage (=a breakaway consisting of less known riders sitting out there for 100 k and being caught with 10k to go) this year. In some editions of the Tour there would have been 5 or 6 of those already.

Stage 3 was boring.

 

[tobydawq]

They must have simply forgotten that it was 9 minutes he needed - not just 8. They had explained it correctly earlier on.

No, they subtracted the 22 seconds from Kämna's GC deficit instead of adding it when calculating the time Pogacar would need to arrive.

 

[tobydawq]

Stage 3 was boring.

You weren't enthralled by Cort's KOM sprint?

 

[red_flanders]

Yes. The weird thing is that Pog himself seems to want it too so it wouldn't make him unhappy to keep it. I think Pog has been really dumb so far if he wanted any rest. But I guess he's like Wout and cannot help himself. He just wants it all

The guy is a champion. In his mind that's HIS jersey. I respect that completely.

 

[Breh]

Pog seems to ride like someone who is painfully insecure.

On the positive side that makes one very competitive, but it does come at a cost.

Eh?

Pogacar is one of the most confident riders in the peloton. Most of his big wins came after a 30km+ solo. You don't attack from that far out if you're not confident.
He doesn't care about conserving energy 24/7 because he knows he's that good.

 

[Rechtschreibfehler]

No tomorrow Fulgsang will win by a large margin. A solo victory.
And then the German press will ask him if he has some German ancestry.

Was it really that bad? I could only watch the last ks and untill Pogacar arrived on Eurosport and nothing after that.

On a serious note.

I don´t think Kämna will do much tomorrow.

There is not much he could do even if he wanted to I guess, they won't let him go with that GC positioning.

But he also really didn't look like he was gonna have a great day tommorow at the end. On Eurosport they were claiming he had to do a lot of work alone on the clim, is that correct?

 

[Rechtschreibfehler]

The problem for Lotto is that most of his season is built around performing at GTs, which he can't do without a decent leadout, primarily De Buyst. Surely if he did a few more one day races instead, he'd be a better asset for the team in terms of the race for points?

Before the Tour started Jens Voigt claimed that Ewan won't have a single top 3 finish without his usual lead out team.

 

[Lequack]

 

[search]

But he also really didn't look like he was gonna have a great day tommorow at the end. On Eurosport they were claiming he had to do a lot of work alone on the clim, is that correct?

not really, no. On the flat Bauer did most of the work in the group, and on the climb Kämna never really tried to keep the pace up. He attackes a couple of times (same as most others), but never set the pace for a longer while, as far as I could see. All in all, he just didn't look good enough today - normally he should have been able to finish with the best (and take yellow)

 

[joe_papp]

After Opi-Omi, surely these people will receive serious punishment for their disgraceful conduct?

 

[Andre]

+31 minutes on this stage doesnt really bode well. Tomorrow is rough, but stage 12 is borderline impossible.

Isn't stage 11 more difficult than stage 12?

 

[yaco]

It's easy to talk about stupidity with hindsight but how could they know in advance who was going to be in a breakaway on stage 5 before it formed. Cort targetting to win that stage in advance would be a veeery long shot. I bet that if anything, they planned to go for Bettiol on that stage, even Rutsch or Bissegger seemed more suited for this kind of cobbles.
Cort going on so many breakaways early on was good publicity to the team that usually struggles to take stage wins so they needed to be relevant in some way.

It was unnecessary for Cort to go in the break in stage four which I posted at the time - Once he was in the break in stage five he was always the favourite with a team mate Powless in the break if he had not gone in the break in stage four - Anyway it's swings and roundabouts as he was from the strongest rider today but got the stage win.