Tour de France Tour de France 2022: Stage 16 (Carcassonne – Foix, 178.5k)

[postmanhat]

What is this break? Crazy stuff...

It's like each team chose their riders by picking straws.

 

[Tinnekeisabella]

Van Hooydonck up the road also? That leaves Vingegaard with just 3 team mates and with Vlasov in the break they can't sit up too much.

Plus Benoot was clearly still hurting from the crash so not sure how much help he can be if anything happens…

 

[spalco]

Van Hooydonck up the road also? That leaves Vingegaard with just 3 team mates and with Vlasov in the break they can't sit up too much.

But a bunch of teams other than Jumbo and UAE will get nervous about Vlasov too if the gap approaches 10 minutes...

 

[Peyroteo94]

UAE had one job. Not letting WVA in the break. They failed big time

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Lol jumbo visma and Belgian pozzato. What are they doing? Marc Soler would have been perfect signing for this team

 

[Anderis]

Yes but actually funny since Powless is also in the break. But I guess he is eying the bigger Cols later on.

I guess Powless knows he doesn't have a kick to beat Geschke on such a small climb.

 

[Tinnekeisabella]

But a bunch of teams other than Jumbo and UAE will get nervous about Vlasov too if the gap approaches 10 minutes...

Only Ineos I think but I think they will wait for Jumbo and UAE to do the work

 

[Wvv]

How come that Lutsenko, who is often a very offensive rider, is never ever involved in these breakaways during this and last year's Tour.

 

[Salvarani]

How come that Lutsenko, who is often a very offensive rider, is never ever involved in these breakaways during this and last year's Tour.

Riding for an anonymous top 10 it seems like.

 

[Filippo_3467]

But a bunch of teams other than Jumbo and UAE will get nervous about Vlasov too if the gap approaches 10 minutes...

Do you think it will go up that much? Don't think the break will be that cooperative...Bora really missing a roleur in there. Could be that the break is doomed because of the very different interests in it.

 

[Anderis]

How come that Lutsenko, who is often a very offensive rider, is never ever involved in these breakaways during this and last year's Tour.

Astana has become a really dull team recently.

 

[spalco]

Do you think it will go up that much?

[snip]

Doesn't seem so at the moment, no. But with an ordinary break it would have happened I think.

 

[ontheroad]

But a bunch of teams other than Jumbo and UAE will get nervous about Vlasov too if the gap approaches 10 minutes...

I don' think UAE will chase, they will have Jumbo do the work, its win or nothing for Pogacar. Ineos on the other hand might get involved if it goes out towards 6/7 minutes.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

UAE had one job. Not letting WVA in the break. They failed big time

They haven't really been great at preventing it so far in the race, so it's hardly a surprise. But Vingegaard only having 2.5 helpers with him might not be that bad for UAE.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Jumbo visma is seriously the most stupid team in the sport. And yet they are favourite for this tour, because their main rival has terrible team and Ineos Gerant Thomas probably isn't strong enough. (Very strong team thought)

But jumbo don't deserve to win this. So stupid.

You are defending the yellow jersey and you sent 2 of your best gregario in the break with a gc rival.

Meanwhile 2 riders have already abandoned and another is injured.

The gc leader is bad at bikehandling and positioning.

The stage potentially will have crosswinds before the climbs. And you leave him with Kuss and Laporte in the bunch.

How is this team so stupid? Is Belgian pozzato the driving force behind this incompetence?

 

[Volderke]

I can't explain this break. Impossible.
But as it happens in this Tour quite a lot, it's entertaining. That's all that matters.

 

[SarahtheDane]

Wout in the break makes sense for helping Jonas on the final descent. The thing is: If Wout has a decent shot at the stagewin, will he drop that to help Jonas? He didn't on the Ventoux last year, where Jonas could have really used him

 

[spalco]

How is this team so stupid? Is Belgian pozzato the driving force behind this incompetence?

I think sending one of VA and VH up the road is fine, but why both of them? And I have no idea how good a descender Hooydonck is.

 

[roundabout]

Laporte can single-handedly keep all breaks in check until Lers.

I think any issues for Jumbo might start from Lers on and not earlier

 

[ontheroad]

Putting Van Hooydonck in the break makes little sense. They are going to have to drop him back at some point as he will not get over the climbs.

 

[RedheadDane]

Wout in the break makes sense for helping Jonas on the final descent. The thing is: If Wout has a decent shot at the stagewin, will he drop that to help Jonas? He didn't on the Ventoux last year, where Jonas could have really used him

There was much less at stake last year. Vingegaard wouldn't have made up over five minutes to Pogacar, even with ten Van Aerts at his disposal, and that would have been against the rules anyway.

 

[yaco]

So far this is a puzzling start to the stage - Have no idea what will happen in the break or in the GC.

 

[ontheroad]

Laporte can single-handedly keep all breaks in check until Lers.

I think any issues for Jumbo might start from Lers on and not earlier

As strong as Laporte might be, one rider will not keep 26 riders in check for 100km. They are going to need assistance from other teams or drop Van Hooydonck back. Maybe they are hoping to rely on Ineos to do the work for them.

 

[Anderis]

Jumbo visma is seriously the most stupid team in the sport. And yet they are favourite for this tour, because their main rival has terrible team and Ineos Gerant Thomas probably isn't strong enough. (Very strong team thought)

But jumbo don't deserve to win this. So stupid.

You are defending the yellow jersey and you sent 2 of your best gregario in the break with a gc rival.

Meanwhile 2 riders have already abandoned and another is injured.

The gc leader is bad at bikehandling and positioning.

The stage potentially will have crosswinds before the climbs. And you leave him with Kuss and Laporte in the bunch.

How is this team so stupid? Is Belgian pozzato the driving force behind this incompetence?

It's funny how good tactics are being painted as stupid tactics.

If they need Van Aert and Van Hooydonck to work, they can always call them back from the break. They don't tire any faster while riding in such a numerous break.

But having them in the break gives them more flexibility. Maybe they.ll be there to work later in the stage if something happens on the climbs.

Vlasov first needs to gain at least 11 minutes today (a big ask) and then ride the remaining stages as well as Vingegaard- which is impossible unless his form has improved during the rest day. I don't think they need to worry to much about him just yet.

 

[titan31]

Just looked at the stage and Jumbo either need to drop Van Hooydonck back soon or hope Ineos or maybe even DSM start helping as leaving Vlasov go away like that could be a mistake.