Tour de France Tour de France 2023, stage 12: Roanne - Belleville-en-Beaujolais, 168.8k

[Peyroteo94]

Unless UAE is saving for tomorrow, they should kill this climb right now

 

[Didinho]

MATHIEU! Gooooo

 

[glassmoon]

MVP goes!

 

[Salvarani]

MVDP having a super-day!

 

[Rollthedice]

MVDP wants it more.

 

[Danskebjerge]

Lidl-Trek in the same bad situation as on the hilly stage the other day - getting the heavy guys out in the breakaway instead of Skjelmose and Ciccone. Mads defended the decisions the other day, talking about bad luck, but when it happens twice ...

 

[Tim Cahill]

Whoever is pulling that 4th group has been going like a truck

 

[Peyroteo94]

MVP showing to WVA how to race smartly

 

[Salvarani]

He will take at least 20-30s more on the descent. Could have a minute going into the last climb, so he might survive that one as well. He is the man to beat.

 

[ontheroad]

MVDP looking good here now, they will need to get rid of him before the last climb and it looks like he is trying to give himself a buffer should they catch him.

 

[DNP-Old]

The group with O'Connor, Kuss and Powless is riding faster than anyone out there.

 

[Boehmand]

Lidl-Trek in the same bad situation as on the hilly stage the other day - getting the heavy guys out in the breakaway instead of Skjelmose and Ciccone. Mads defended the decisions the other day, talking about bad luck, but when it happens twice ...

Nobody in the world could have predicted the stage would unfold like it has.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Lidl-Trek in the same bad situation as on the hilly stage the other day - getting the heavy guys out in the breakaway instead of Skjelmose and Ciccone. Mads defended the decisions the other day, talking about bad luck, but when it happens twice ...

It's not like Ciccone and Skjelmose didn't try, but you can attack a million times and still miss out when a group finally goes.

 

[Gigs_98]

The chasing group doesn't have that much climbing talent, so I can easily see them failing to catch MvdP. They really aren't allowed to look at each other too much.

 

[Salvarani]

Best case scenario would be a crazy start. A long and hard fight to be in the breakaway, with someone decent ending up in it. Forcing Jumbo to work and keep the group on a tight leash. Those three last climbs later in the stage coming back-to-back-to-back, with almost zero flat km in between them, invites for some exciting racing.

However, if the break goes with no one important in it... the break could easily get +10 minutes and the peloton going at snail pace towards the final. Jumbo controlling those climbs quite easily in the end.

 

[SHAD0W93]

Kuss might make it back if UAE don’t set the pace.

 

[Didinho]

No one getting away behind him so the pace drops often. Even Campenaerts getting back. A good descent after this one and he can make it. His finish is on the last top now.

 

[Rollthedice]

Pino has to do something sooner than later, otherwise VDP has this.

 

[Tim Cahill]

Like the final climb is pretty tricky but most of the rest of this stage is downhill so he can just pace it evenly

 

[Aimar16]

The last climb will be too difficult for MvdP

 

[bob.a.feet]

Surely at this point AG2R are just making things harder for O'Connor, because it looks like that group is coming back.

 

[Rollthedice]

I'm a bit out of the loop, why is AG2R chasing so hard?

 

[Danskebjerge]

It's not like Ciccone and Skjelmose didn't try, but you can attack a million times and still miss out when a group finally goes.

But when it happens twice. What is Pedersen's intentions? He knows he won't get a result in that terrain, and it's not that he's saving energy for later.

 

[Tim Cahill]

Is it IWG saving Menjties 12th

 

[Gigs_98]

Attacking there seems like a really bad idea to me .