Tour de France Tour de France 2023, stage 13: Châtillon-sur-Chalaronne - Grand Colombier, 137.8k

[saunaking]

Riders aren't going to stand for long stages anymore (within reason).
They have more power than they used to and know how to use it.
They can complain in the press, they can race negatively. We see at the Giro how well it works.

And honestly, while i would like long stages raced hard, its just not gonna happen anymore, the sport has progressed beyond that from the riders perspective.

 

[frisenfruitig]

Last couple stages has left me blue balled so I hope they deliver today.

You didn't think yesterday was entertaining?

 

[gregrowlerson]

You could go even more aggressive...

...why not "bonus hours"?

They might need to do this once Remco races Le Tour.

 

[Boehmand]

They might need to do this once Remco races Le Tour.

Or just do Indurain-era routes, with 200 K TT

 

[gregrowlerson]

Or just do Indurain-era routes, with 200 K TT

@Bavarianrider

 

[Salvarani]

Ewan +7 minutes behind

 

[StryderHells]

Ewan looks cooked

 

[glassmoon]

Ewan looks cooked

like every non flat day recently.. .

 

[StryderHells]

like every non flat day recently.. .

He usually has a teammate with him but not today

 

[tobydawq]

You've really made a strong case for short stages. Much wow.

I don't have the time to elaborate now. But I think it's quite evident that there is a correlation between shorter stages and exciting racing. Denying that is just being contrarian.

 

[frisenfruitig]

He usually has a teammate with him but not today

The Lotto DS was very harsh on him after the last sprint stage saying he didn't even try etc. I think they are starting to get tired of him. Not sure when his contract expires but I don't think it will get extended.

 

[glassmoon]

Latour and the descents... iconic duo

 

[Tim Cahill]

Sub-Zakarin descending from Latour

 

[Berniece]

Riders aren't going to stand for long stages anymore (within reason).
They have more power than they used to and know how to use it.
They can complain in the press, they can race negatively. We see at the Giro how well it works.

And honestly, while i would like long stages raced hard, its just not gonna happen anymore, the sport has progressed beyond that from the riders perspective.

It’s also more entertaining honestly, short stages that is

 

[Rechtschreibfehler]

Latour cooked or just really really bad at descending?

 

[StryderHells]

Latour and the descents... iconic duo

Did Latour only learn how to not descend recently? I don’t remember ever being this bad until this season

 

[ppanther92]

How does Latour get distanced so quickly on a wide road downhill?

 

[Jumbo Visma Fan :)]

It’s also more entertaining honestly, short stages that is

An entertaining large stage is better than an entertaining short stage. Paris Roubaix is an example of that.

 

[frisenfruitig]

Latour cooked or just really really bad at descending?

The latter. Not sure if he had a horrible carsh and still has PTSD or what but he is terrible.

 

[Boehmand]

Danish broadcast debating Tour prize money.

The Tour winner gets € 500,000 after riding 21 stages
The Wimbledon winner gets € 2,750,000 after playing 7 matches
The US Open winner gets € 3,200,000 after playing 4 rounds

 

[glassmoon]

Did Latour only learn not how to descend recently? I don’t remember ever being this bad until this season

He always was this bad... he even admitted it and tried various things (even hypnosis) to solve his block but to no avail.

edit: maybe not always but at least during recent years for sure

 

[topcat]

Latour to attack from the gc group. It might work.

 

[StryderHells]

He always was this bad... he even admitted it and tried various things (even hypnosis) to solve his block but to no avail.

Guess I’ve just never noticed before, he makes Pinot look like a master

 

[Boehmand]

I don't have the time to elaborate now. But I think it's quite evident that there is a correlation between shorter stages and exciting racing. Denying that is just being contrarian.

It depends on the route design though.

A stage like today would never be exiting until the climb, irrespective of whether they rode 20, 120 or 220 K ahead of the climb.

 

[Elos Anjos]

Danish broadcast debating Tour prize money.

The Tour winner gets € 500,000 after riding 21 stages.
The Wimbledon winner gets € 2,750,000 after playing 7 matches
The US Open winner gets € 3,200,000 after playing 4 rounds

No wonder the Hamlet guy.