Tour de France Tour de France 2023, stage 15: Les Gets - Saint-Gervais Mont Blanc, 179.0k

[glassmoon]

He isn't, Total aren't WT.

touché

 

[Boehmand]

Jumbo appears to raise the tempo now

 

[Boehmand]

Skjelmose is spending too much time at the front, maybe he doesn't have the legs today because of the crash yesterday, and is riding for Ciccone?

 

[Valv.Piti]

This is the commentator effect: Commentators are chauvinistic towards your nations riders, so you start to root against them because you are sick and tired of all the talk about them.

Do you guys experience that?

 

[Danskebjerge]

There are some then that were originally burgs but became more schloss like. Eltz and Hohenzollen so not always correct just to go off the name

Nope, a fortified castle in German is called a Burg, A Schloss is more like an extremely elaborate Manor house

Schloss:

Burg:

French has the words château and forteresse. But it's probably not the same difference as in German.

 

[search]

I can’t recall any bad crashes downhill of his. Does he have any?

Pais Vasco last year, high speed downhill crash on a straight.

He wasn't such a bad descender before, at least. I mean, when Jumbo got that 1-2-3 in PNC last spring, he still came 4th after a downhill attack.

 

[DNP-Old]

Hmm.

D’où vient cette peur ?
Il y a eu bien sûr une grosse chute au tour d’Oman en 2019 qui m’avait valu deux fractures, du radius et du scaphoïde de la main gauche. Mais il y en a eu d’autres. Et surtout, parfois dans une descente, s’il y a un bout d’humidité, ma roue bouge. Et là, c’est comme si tout s’éteignait. J’ai peur car j’ai l’impression que je pars dans le vide en ne maîtrisant rien. Comme un trou d’air dans un avion. Et c’est fini, la descente est coincée. Je me crispe et je sais que je viens de retomber dans cette peur. C’est comme si, dans ma tête, il n’y avait plus de sol sous mes roues.

This is from two days ago and I am baffled. He mentions Oman 2019, but I just went through his results from start to end, including juniors and cadets, and he has never even raced in Oman.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Latour didn‘t race from Australia until June in 2019, so maybe he crashed in training in Oman.

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

Apparently this stage is between Chateaupalais and Schlossburg.

 

[Tim Cahill]

Feel sorry for Latour, he has the yips, its already screwed his breakaway ambitions on a couple of stages.

 

[SHAD0W93]

This is the commentator effect: Commentators are chauvinistic towards your nations riders, so you start to root against them because you are sick and tired of all the talk about them.

Do you guys experience that?

Nah, hearing Sepp Kuss is from Durango Colorado is the highlight of my experience.

 

[glassmoon]

He specifically named Oman 2019. Which I find weird, since he didn't even race in Oman in 2019.

“There was of course a big crash during the Tour of Oman in 2019 which cost me two fractures, of the radius and the scaphoid in my left hand. But there were others,” he says. “And above all, sometimes on a descent, if there is a bit of rain, my wheel moves. And there, it’s as if everything is extinguished.

“I’m scared because I have the impression that I’m going into the void with no control over anything. Like an air pocket in an airplane. And it’s over, the descent is stuck. I tense up and know that I have just fallen back into this fear. It’s as if, in my head, there is no more ground under my wheels.”

- yep he always mentions that. but also other unspecified crashes (or maybe close calls). He also mentioned rain but he clearly has problems even when it's dry. And it's been going on for years.

 

[Salvarani]

“There was of course a big crash during the Tour of Oman in 2019 which cost me two fractures, of the radius and the scaphoid in my left hand. But there were others,” he says. “And above all, sometimes on a descent, if there is a bit of rain, my wheel moves. And there, it’s as if everything is extinguished.

“I’m scared because I have the impression that I’m going into the void with no control over anything. Like an air pocket in an airplane. And it’s over, the descent is stuck. I tense up and know that I have just fallen back into this fear. It’s as if, in my head, there is no more ground under my wheels.”

- yep he always mentions that. but also other unspecified crashes (or maybe close calls). He also mentioned rain but he clearly has problems even when it's dry. And it's been going on for years.

Sounds like PTSD.

He seems pretty self aware about it.

 

[Grayguard]

The peloton is reeling in the break atm.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

This is from two days ago and I am baffled. He mentions Oman 2019, but I just went through his results from start to end, including juniors and cadets, and he has never even raced in Oman.

Latour was due to race the UAE tour in 2019, after racing in Australia in January, and crashed in training 1 day before the race after hitting a pothole. Fractured scaphoid and left radius

 

[Danskebjerge]

He left his intelligence at home. He is making useless attacks in stages that dont suit him at all, not saving energy which means when it will be favorable to him, he would be fatigued.

Yeah, he is like van Aert, just 100 watts weaker.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

This is the commentator effect: Commentators are chauvinistic towards your nations riders, so you start to root against them because you are sick and tired of all the talk about them.

Do you guys experience that?

It was the reason why I never became a fan of CSC/Saxo Bank.

 

[Potomac]

EF has five riders left in the race and four of them are in the break.

 

[DNP-Old]

Latour didn‘t race from Australia until June in 2019, so maybe he crashed in training in Oman.

Latour out of UAE Tour after training crash | Cyclingnews.com

AG2R La Mondiale leader fractures wrist while riding in UAE

www.cyclingnews.com

It would appear he doesn't know Oman and UAE are two different countries.

 

[DJ Sprtsch]

Will the break make it?

 

[Eclipse]

This is the commentator effect: Commentators are chauvinistic towards your nations riders, so you start to root against them because you are sick and tired of all the talk about them.

Do you guys experience that?

100%. Basically none of my favourite sporting people are British and I put it down almost entirely to our commentators and media haha.

 

[Potomac]

Will the break make it?

not a chance

 

[RedheadDane]

Will the break make it?

Please, yes.

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

Latour didn‘t race from Australia until June in 2019, so maybe he crashed in training in Oman.

PCS Injury history page for him lists Fractured wrist for him in training on 22nd Feb 2019, the day after the Tour of Oman finished. Odd that he should link the injury to the race.

 

[topcat]

The peloton is reeling in the break atm.

Why talk about the race when you can talk about castles, testosterone in expectant dads, ptsd, commentators and linguistics. Great race that will probably heat up in an hour. I’m going to tear myself away from from the armchair psychology, go for a run and catch le crunch.