Tour de France Tour de France 2023, stage 15: Les Gets - Saint-Gervais Mont Blanc, 179.0k

[Peyroteo94]

Thats a very positive interpretation (from Pogacar's point)...

Time will tell but one thing I know, Vingegaard agrees with me.

 

[Trofonios]

Should van Aert have waited when he realized he wasn't going to win.
Could have been an interesting if van Aert was there in the end doing a last effort.

 

[Boehmand]

Thats a very positive interpretation (from Pogacar's point)...

But true, since Pogacar actually did attack and try to gap Vingegaard - he just couldn't today.

 

[Gigs_98]

They were both too fresh. Pogacar has more anaerobic capacity, so it's not like Vingegaard can accelerate him off the wheel. But Pogacar didn't have the snap on his attack to put 1cm into Vingegaard unlike every time before.

His attack and Vingegaards reaction really looked like it was last years Tour again. That said, I don't think we should interpret too much into this. Power dynamics shift slightly from day to day. That's nothing new.

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

If Pog had been in trouble, no way would Yates have ridden away.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

You have to acknowledge that Poels climbed the final climb about 10 billion times faster than the rest of the breakaway.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

I think having Yates go up the road was a ploy to bait Vingo into chasing, setting him up for the counter in the final couple hundred kilometers.

Maybe but they already had Soler waiting. Baiting Vinge to move ahead made some sense but it's obvious the Dane isn't threatened by Yates so he wouldn't have chased hard wasting energy.

 

[wheresmybrakes]

Really hoping Pog takes some decent time out of Vingo in the ITT. Just to see Pog tied the back end of Vingo for the remainder of the race. Give a bit of his own medicine back

 

[StryderHells]

There isn't though. There's the TT in Tuesday, Loze on Wednesday and we've a stage I don't expect much gaps in in Saturday (unless they attack on Petit Balloon). Wednesday will likely be the decider now so you've basically put it down to who's strongest on on day. He looked stronger today and left that go.

So plenty of time for Vinge to defend and possibly to extend his lead?

 

[HelloDolly]

Adam yates better as Dom than riding for himself...We see that sometimes as the goal is clearer and the mental pressure less

Simon now needs to go work for one of the top GC riders and he will probably do better

 

[Big Doopie]

UAE is proving to have the upper hand in the high mountain stages

slight, but Jumbo's day-long hard pacing appears to be working to soften Pog's ability to accelerate.

an observation only. no idea what will happen. one of them could come much stronger than the other out of the rest day. really hard to tell.

 

[hfer07]

Congrats to Wout Poels for finally getting a TDF stage win

as far as the GC......... I'm getting vibes of the 2010 TDF when Andy Schleck tried over and over again to drop Contador........

 

[wheresmybrakes]

You have to acknowledge that Poels climbed the final climb about 10 billion times faster than the rest of the breakaway.

WOW, that's fast.

 

[Valv.Piti]

You have to acknowledge that Poels climbed the final climb about 10 billion times faster than the rest of the breakaway.

Poels absolutely destroyed them. By far the best on the day, quite incredible performance honestly. But good on the TV crew for not wasting too much time showing a rider that had already won.

 

[SHAD0W93]

I really think Pogacar did not look good. Left some weird 1-2m gaps to Vingegaard behind Rodriguez and for the first time also couldn't gap Vingegaard for even a second.

So even if the Yates move was intentional, Vingegaard might have wasted an opportunity by being too passive.

Looked more like he was leaving space for a run-up.

 

[ppanther92]

Btw. complete off-topic but Mühlberger should go in groups. Today 14th from the group of favourites, yesterday 29th and he does this for absolutely nothing. Might have a stage win in him. And he previously has shown that he becomes strong towards the end of GTs.

 

[Boehmand]

You have to acknowledge that Poels climbed the final climb about 10 billion times faster than the rest of the breakaway.

10 billion seconds, is 317 years

 

[yaco]

Gall and Yates again dropped in the downhill

Unforgiveable, seeing that Yates had three support riders.

 

[Red Rick]

Poels did the final climb faster than all but 5 of the GC guys?

 

[movingtarget]

Great win by Poels. Adam Yates is looking stronger as the race goes on. Rodriguez is proving to be a real diesel. Hindley would probably take a top 5 overall at this point.

 

[titan31]

If Pog had been in trouble, no way would Yates have ridden away.

I dunno. I think that tactic looks odd enough that it causes you to question things more than if Yates rode an easy tempo and buys you time then. To me it looked bad for Pogacar but I can get why you'd question it. I think it was clear Pogacar wasnt good after Rodriguez caught back up and then his attack was so normal, Vingegaard should have gone then.

 

[ppanther92]

Time will tell but one thing I know, Vingegaard agrees with me.

I mean, what should he say? "Pogacar was weak today, I saw it but I just decided to keep him in the race"?

 

[pelotonIQ]

I really think Pogacar did not look good. Left some weird 1-2m gaps to Vingegaard behind Rodriguez and for the first time also couldn't gap Vingegaard for even a second.

So even if the Yates move was intentional, Vingegaard might have wasted an opportunity by being too passive.

Because Rodriguez was surging.

 

[ppanther92]

Poels did the final climb faster than all but 5 of the GC guys?

I already thought he does extremly well following the GPS gap. Again, didn't think he still had this in him.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Okay, in my next life, I think I'll be a snooker fan, or something like that.
My nerves can't handle this.

Snooker can be quite thrilling, too. However I've never seen an electrical fence at a tournament yet (even though some fans could deserve corporal punishement), so it may not be the right sport for you. It's also a numbers game which could make it tricky for you. Yellow isn't the most important ball either which might confuse you as well.