Tour de France Tour de France 2023, stage 20: Belfort - Le Markstein, 133.5k

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Great battle by Pinot until the very end. It looked like he would make it at one point. I will miss him, maybe he can still change his mind. Who else has fans like these.

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To feel like this for several minutes would make a career! Pinot should be very happy with his last Tour.
 
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That’s because you think his job is to have his team win bike races; his real job is being Marc Madiot and he is the GOAT at that job.

Seriously I have long had the opinion that ASO need to be tougher on the French teams; it has historically been too easy for them to get a wild card if they drop down to the pro-Conti Tour, so they get away with not running a very tight ship.
The goal of a French team is to be the sympathetic losers.
 
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Attack every chance he got… you already forgot the first two stages?

Vingegaard played it safe, which is fine but yesterday’s stage was boring due to it and there was no reason to play it safe when you’re 7min ahead
He didn’t attack in either of those. But are you telling me a sprint for bonus seconds is more exciting than an all-out attack with 60 km to go that results in the Tourmalet record?

Pogi never attacked before the last climb, and mostly waited for a late surge. Wow.
 
He didn’t attack in either of those. But are you telling me a sprint for bonus seconds is more exciting than an all-out attack with 60 km to go that results in the Tourmalet record?

Pogi never attacked before the last climb, and mostly waited for a late surge. Wow.
You know very well how race situations and tactics were played out. It was never on Pogacar to make the race hard and go long this year, and when it was, he was just completely empty on that one day.

Pogacar rode to his strengths and try to hide his weaknesses, but they caught up to him mainly to due to his prep. Yesterday, all he wanted was the stage as he's this far behind. Vingegaard also wanted to win the stage, but was somehow still too scared of Pogacar to even try once and therefore just conceded the stage which made for a boring, tactical race.

It was never on Pogacar to do anything, and yet he attacked. I think Vingegaard was too afraid to get dropped and countered, so he played it safe for god know what reasons since a suicide attack still would have given him better chances.

Boring and conservative, always looking for Pogacar. I think thats in his nature outside of those few all-in stages, and you know what, thats totally fair, but not good cycling yesterday.
 
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You know very well how race situations and tactics were played out. It was never on Pogacar to make the race hard and go long this year, and when it was, he was just completely empty on that one day.

Pogacar rode to his strengths and try to hide his weaknesses, but they caught up to him mainly to due to his prep.
Which is perfectly fair, but don't tell me that he was far more exciting than Vingegaard.

Cauterets was a nice surprise for the suspense of the race, but he only made one single attack the entire race that exposed him: on Joux Plane.
 
The contrast between the inane moaning about Rogla being a boring mountain sprinter, while everyone glees when Pogi sprints for bonus seconds. Surreal.
I mean, its blatantly obvious you're just trolling at this point. And the Valverde-thing, wtf?

We can dislike riders, but calling them cancer is well.. pretty cancer, and should not really be tolerated.
 
The contrast between the inane moaning about Rogla being a boring mountain sprinter, while everyone glees when Pogi sprints for bonus seconds. Surreal.
Clearly, that has nothing to do with the fact that one has the sense that Roglic would be able to attack from further out with success whereas Pogacar probably cannot do that against Vingegaard. And he doesn't only sprint for bonus seconds, lol...

(I am not among those who criticise Roglic by the way)
 
Clearly, that has nothing to do with the fact that one has the sense that Roglic would be able to attack from further out with success whereas Pogacar probably cannot do that against Vingegaard. And he doesn't only sprint for bonus seconds, lol...

(I am not among those who criticise Roglic by the way)
Rogla did attack in the Giro when he was good, but after his crash he clearly couldn't (as he was dropped on Bondone). Pogi was evidently far stronger than that between Tourmalet and Domancy.

So I think it's nonsensical to say that Rogla chose not to attack when he could, while it was impossible for Pogi to dare more.