Tour de France Tour de France 2023, stage 4: Dax - Nogaro, 181.8k

[Izzyeviel]

can we appreciate Welsford sprint? He must've gained a 100 places.

 

[Eddy Evenepoel]

last in the group seems fair.

Given he finished 154th so i don’t know if it would be a point doing that

 

[Boehmand]

It's just 7 flat stages. The route is fine.
Remember past tours like 2003, 2005? Tours with 10/11 flat stages and so few mountain stages. The route in the present is so much better than in the past.

Also it isn't really 7 certain bunch sprint stages remaining.

Stage 8 is a flat finish, but with a 1,2 K 5,4 % climb 9 K from the finish.

Stage 10 is a flat finish, but with a 6,5 K 5,6 % climb 30 K from the finish, and mostly downhill from the summit.

Stage 12 is a flat finish, but with a 5,3 K 7,6 % climb 28 K from the finish, with 15 K of it being downhill.

Stage 19 is a flat finish, but with a 2,3 K 5,9 % climb 28 K from the finish,

Strong breaks have a shot on all those, and on some of them a reduced sprint is realistic.

I think only stages 7, 11, 18 and 21 are certain bunch sprints.

 

[Valv.Piti]

It's just 7 flat stages. The route is fine.
Remember past tours like 2003, 2005? Tours with 10/11 flat stages and so few mountain stages. The route in the present is so much better than in the past.

You managed to drop the best Tours off the Armstrong era. Nothing wrong with those routes at all..

 

[Valv.Piti]

Also it isn't really 7 certain bunch sprint stages remaining.

Stage 8 is a flat finish, but with a 1,2 K 5,4 % climb 9 K from the finish.

Stage 10 is a flat finish, but with a 6,5 K 5,6 % climb 30 K from the finish, and mostly downhill from the summit.

Stage 12 is a flat finish, but with a 5,3 K 7,6 % climb 28 K from the finish, with 15 K of it being downhill.

Stage 19 is a flat finish, but with a 2,3 K 5,9 % climb 28 K from the finish,

Strong breaks have a shot on all those, and on some of them a reduced sprint is realistic.

I think only stages 7, 11, 18 and 21 are certain bunch sprints.

Why you even include stage 10 and 12 are beyond me. These are super hard breakaway stages that will be contested by the best riders outside of top 15 and got absolutely nothing to do with sprints.

 

[Boehmand]

Given he finished 154th so i don’t know if it would be a point doing that

I know, that's the point

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Did anyone spot what Bauhaus got punished for?
Not that he had much chance of winning the green jersey anyway, but he definitely won't now.

Ok, he gave Kirsch a bump when the Bahrain train overtook Trek's, but it didn't look worse than what normally happens in a sprint.

 

[Red Rick]

Van Poppel sr saying Philipsen caused Jakobsens crash. Fresh drama. Gotta love it.

Also this

Let's look at where Groenewegen is and how there is 0 shot he got there making illegal moves himself.

 

[Izzyeviel]

not sure how you can blame Jasper for Fabio's crash. Fabio touched wheels with an intermache rider

 

[ZamlinusYoutubeious]

Pan flat stage is too dangerous, they should ban it.

 

[Zoetemelk-fan]

It is. We stopped in Carcassonne too, and that was awesome.

I reckon you were writing from inside peleton? Seems time for everything for you today
(yes Carcassonne is beautiful, visited old town center in late 80ies - when Le Tour riders didn't took that much time for sightseeing as of today's riders)

 

[Netserk]

Relegation for leadouts makes no sense. Either relegate the sprinter or DQ the leadout

It makes sense as an official yellow card.

 

[yaco]

Van Poppel sr saying Philipsen caused Jakobsens crash. Fresh drama. Gotta love it.

Also this

Let's look at where Groenewegen is and how there is 0 shot he got there making illegal moves himself.

Except that is Mezgec.

 

[VorstM]

Van Poppel sr saying Philipsen caused Jakobsens crash. Fresh drama. Gotta love it.

Also this

Let's look at where Groenewegen is and how there is 0 shot he got there making illegal moves himself.

It looks narrow as Mezgec is avoiding Cavendish who swings from right to left.

 

[Lequack]

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[Pantani_lives]

They'll make a movie about Fabio Jakobsen's shirt: Torn on the Fourth of July.

 

[KZD]

Philipsen is set to be the dominant sprinter in this Tour but I really liked to see Ewan in these two stages, I hope that he manages to wins a stage as he has been very unlucky lately.

 

[hayneplane]

Been thinking the same. Waerenskjold is ridiculously good at delivering Kristoff who just isn't quick enough this season to capitalise on it. Reversing the roles would probably bring Uno-X some more points and maybe a podium spot?

Pretty terrible mistake by Soren today though causing the crash. First GT in his first WT season, and the naivete really showed.

Kristoff has never been a reliable bet for a top 3 in bunch sprints at the end of short, easy stages like today at any point in his career let alone at the tail end of his time. His forte is being able to still produce a sprint at the end of a long stage or classic when the snap has been deadened from the more explosive finishers.

 

[jmdirt]

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[ChewbaccaDefense]

what was his crime?

His d!ck move on Girmay...then again, he's kind of a d!ck every day, so I guess he's always a criminal.

 

[Wyndbrook]

His d!ck move on Girmay...then again, he's kind of a d!ck every day, so I guess he's always a criminal.

You like your d!cks don't you.

 

[ChewbaccaDefense]

You like your d!cks don't you.

Especially your mom's.

 

[jmdirt]

Van Poppel sr saying Philipsen caused Jakobsens crash. Fresh drama. Gotta love it.

Also this

Let's look at where Groenewegen is and how there is 0 shot he got there making illegal moves himself.

From the shot with movement, it looks like Fabio caused his own crash and almost collected JP with him IMO.

 

[Boehmand]

His d!ck move on Girmay...then again, he's kind of a d!ck every day, so I guess he's always a criminal.

You like your d!cks don't you.

Especially your mom's.

Temper, temper Gentlemen

 

[RobertCrawley]

Philipsen is set to be the dominant sprinter in this Tour but I really liked to see Ewan in these two stages, I hope that he manages to wins a stage as he has been very unlucky lately.

On his Instagram, Ewan posted a picture of the finish and wrote, “Painfully close today.”

I like Jasper the Disaster a lot, but it’s also good to see the wealth spread out.

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