Tour de France Tour de France 2023, stage 9: Saint-Léonard-de-Noblat - Puy de Dôme, 182.4k

[StryderHells]

Not a bad ride in the end by Hindley, thought he’d concede a heap more time than that.

 

[ppanther92]

'Pogacar can't do gradients over 8%'
'Pogacar can't handle the heat'
'Pogacar can't do difficult climbs'

Imagine the gap on a rainy day on a 5km 8% finish then

 

[RobertCrawley]

Vingegaard can’t feel horrible after todays stage.

No, not at all. Pogi and Jonas are essentially equals this year.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Taunting for the French today.

 

[Netserk]

So the Tour was lost on Tourmalet.

 

[glassmoon]

At 11% almost no effect though.

almost... but tdf 1st and 2nd place difference is also almost 0 percent

 

[Peyroteo94]

Vingegaard excels in 20 minutes climbs too. Don't act like this wasn't his terrain.

 

[Boehmand]

Yep I was sure it would have been more, but Vingegaard did not explode.

Vingegaard with 18 secounds more than Pogacar, that wont last. This will be the picture of the last part of the tour

I bet you sat the same after stage 9 last year as well

 

[RobertCrawley]

Ineos is not unhappy today.

 

[ppanther92]

almost... but tdf 1st and 2nd place difference is also almost 0 percent

Ok, fair. Especially between those two atm. But its just the benefit of the attacker, I guess.

 

[Rackham]

No, not at all. Pogi and Jonas are essentially equals this year.

Pog is dropping Vingegaard. He couldn't do that last year so I'd say this is a big improvement for Pogačar.

Especially on climbs & in temperatures which people said would favor Vinge.

 

[HelloDolly]

Career best climbing performance from Pidcock.

Pidcock has the ability ..always

Just testing himself for GC ....When he does it for real ?

 

[Scarponi]

No idea why you couldn’t have fans up there

 

[Lorzenz08]

Lol Pogi’s terrain is steep stuff lol. It also doesn’t look conductive for a rainy day soon.

I thought Vingegaard was the best climber since Pantani.

 

[ontheroad]

This Tour looks like it will go right down to the wire, very little between the top 2 although psychologically Pog has struck a blow dropping Vingegaard twice now. Not a bad position for UAE having Jumbo riding in yellow knowing that Pog is breathing down their neck.

 

[Poursuivant]

JV did well to limit that then

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Not a bad ride in the by Hindley, thought he’d concede a heap more time than that.

This is perhaps one of the more impressive rides he's had, because it shows he is really good at the Carlos Sastre job, letting go early and riding to his own pace, only to re-emerge near the front after everybody else goes into the red fighting each other. Sastre was renowned for riding most MTFs as though there was no other rider on them, he would just ride his speed whether it was off the back, off the front or in the group, depending on what he was comfortable with; whereas some riders like Evans would panic if they got dropped so would go deep into the red to stay with the leaders until he popped, Sastre didn't care about letting go if he couldn't match their pace, he'd just do a pace he knew HE could sustain and more often than not he'd overtake a lot of people who had already dropped him before, similar to Woods' example from the break.

 

[KOM]

First guys arriving together were S. Yates and Pidcock in 15th and 16th. Tough climb in tough conditions

 

[Jumbo Visma Fan :)]

Vingegaard excels in 20 minutes climbs too. Don't act like this wasn't his terrain.

Pogi is just better than him at 20 minute efforts. The pendulum swings towards Jonas as the climb gets longer.

 

[Boehmand]

No idea why you couldn’t have fans up there

Because it's a nature preserve.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Vingegaard excels in 20 minutes climbs too. Don't act like this wasn't his terrain.

And this was a HC.

 

[titan31]

Vingegaard excels in 20 minutes climbs too. Don't act like this wasn't his terrain.

I definitely think Pogacar is better on the super steep stuff though like today.

 

[DrSahl]

I bet you sat the same after stage 9 last year as well

I actually said the vice versa.

 

[Elos Anjos]

This is perhaps one of the more impressive rides he's had, because it shows he is really good at the Carlos Sastre job, letting go early and riding to his own pace, only to re-emerge near the front after everybody else goes into the red fighting each other. Sastre was renowned for riding most MTFs as though there was no other rider on them, he would just ride his speed whether it was off the back, off the front or in the group, depending on what he was comfortable with; whereas some riders like Evans would panic if they got dropped so would go deep into the red to stay with the leaders until he popped, Sastre didn't care about letting go if he couldn't match their pace, he'd just do a pace he knew HE could sustain and more often than not he'd overtake a lot of people who had already dropped him before, similar to Woods' example from the break.

That's even more impressive in a time where there were no pacing technologies.

 

[movingtarget]

Hindley riding a smart race and finding his own rhythm on the climbs. Great win by Woods. Pogacar chipping away at Vingegaard's lead.