Tour de France Tour de France 2024, Stage 12: Aurillac > Villenueve-sur-Lot, 203.6km

[mountainroad]

Love Girmay.

Future WC, I hope.

I hate this for Roglič.

 

[Kangaridoo]

Søren Kragh out apparently. Fourth Dane to quit.

Worth it for 6th to Disaster!

 

[RobertCrawley]

Primoz going down before he hit Lutzenko. It looks like simultaneous crashes?

 

[Nick2413]

Philipsen would’ve gotten relegated if he did what Demare did. Wout probably wins otherwise. **** luck but Girmay has been good.

 

[yaco]

Matthews nailing it with nobody on the wheel

Jayco should have sprinted with Matthews after Groenewegen struggled early in the stage. Jayco can be inflexible with their tactics.

 

[Nick2413]

Primoz going down before he hit Lutzenko. It looks like simultaneous crashes?

It looked like he and the guys in front of him had already started braking heavily, or he maybe brakes too late compared to the guy in front of him, then flipped over.

 

[Kangaridoo]

With Alpecin losing 2 riders today and Biniam sealing the green jersey it gives more opportunity for future breaks

 

[RobertCrawley]

Absolutely hate sprinters closing gaps like that, its so dangerous. Hold your goddamn line and just do a proper sprint. Wout is always the guy getting *** by it

Note to Wout: Stop sprinting near the barriers.

 

[Sciatic]

Love Girmay.

Future WC, I hope.

I hate this for Roglič.

I can’t recall . . . He’s won 260 km races?

 

[Penninepeddler]

Just re-watched it, he was the fastest over the final 100m because he was in the wheels for it and Milan/Merlier were in the wind

I mean, he is also beating Philipsen here... Philipsen who has an even record vs Merlier in sprints this season when they have faced each other a lot.

I would not say Bini is the best, for sure, (it is probably Milan in terms of pure power and speed would be my guess) and he would not have won 3 stages if Milan and Merlier were here. BUT I think going off this season he is probably a roughly similar level and can beat Milan and Merlier depending on situation.

 

[Danskebjerge]

Worth it for 6th to Disaster!

Søren Kragh's Tour was really weird. He did weird things, and came up with weird explanations in interviews.

 

[Kangaridoo]

I can’t recall . . . He’s won 260 km races?

Gent-Wevelgem

 

[Wvv]

Both Démare and Cavendish relegated.

 

[RobertCrawley]

Both Démare and Cavendish relegated.

Wow, but really a slap on the wrist since they aren't competing for positions in any jersey competition.

 

[kingjr]

Note to Wout: Stop sprinting near the barriers.

He could have waited until Demare opens his sprint and would have had more than enough time to come around him.

 

[kingjr]

Both Démare and Cavendish relegated.

Philipsen should be as well tbh, if they want to be consistent. He almost took out Stuyven.

 

[yaco]

There are like 6-7 of the top 10 sprinters right now here though... pretty standard for TdF.

just a very even field right now.

Though yeh, I think those 2 are the best this season. But it is close tbh I think.

Philipsen vs Merlier against each other in sprints this year, I believe, are 4-4... and Bini is getting the better of Philipsen here.

And Merlier vs Milan has also been pretty even.

And Bini might have been the fastest vs Milan AND Merlier in Giro stage 3... but he got a bit boxed in and came from a looong way back.

Do you think Grmay could have won a stage at the Giro? It doesn't help that some teams are so obsessed they will not bring a sprinter, and the you have Kooij and Merlier making poor career choices.

 

[Jagartrott]

He could have waited until Demare opens his sprint and would have had more than enough time to come around him.

Why does he need to go 'around' him? Démare changes his line and gets into Van Aert's lane while VA is already sprinting himself.

 

[Danskebjerge]

Was that Kristoff's best effort so far? He was 8th. Not really close to the podium.

 

[Penninepeddler]

Do you think Grmay could have won a stage at the Giro? It doesn't help that some teams are so obsessed they will not bring a sprinter, and the you have Kooij and Merlier making poor career choices.

Based off stage 3 it was possible...

 

[kingjr]

Why does he need to go 'around' him? Démare changes his line and gets into Van Aert's lane.

Yes, van Aert started his sprint too soon, accepting the risk that Démare would move towards the barrier, as sprinters usually do when they move past their leadout. Could have just followed his wheel towards the barrier and then overtake him on the left.

 

[Heston]

Yes, van Aert started his sprint too soon, accepting the risk that Démare would move towards the barrier, as sprinters usually do when they move past their leadout. Could have just followed his wheel towards the barrier and then overtake him on the left.

Accepting the risk that Demare would try to plow him into the barrier? Sorry but this is some strange victim blaming. Demare's sprint was incredibly dangerous

 

[red_flanders]

Both Démare and Cavendish relegated.

Wow, surprised about Cav. Thought he was just avoiding the Arkea guy slipping back.

 

[Netserk]

Absolutely hate sprinters closing gaps like that, its so dangerous. Hold your goddamn line and just do a proper sprint. Wout is always the guy getting *** by it

I think this was a case of a lead-out rider picking a lane so that only one rider can go on the inside, so you better stay on the wheel of the sprinter who will go there or pick a different route to the finish.

 

[Samamba]

Painful ending for Alpecin and MOvistar, the 2 teams who worked all day.