Saying Van Gils shouldered him on purpose is ridiculous. He was trying to avoid him, the shoulder move was caused by the impact with much slower rider, its simple phisics. When you collide with slower object, it will almost turn you around. On the other hand, he didnt have to go for such narrow space.
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The Parisians may not be super happy about it but no question it's going to be spectacular!
Yeah, and a split decision in the heat of the moment as well. Though I saw this as a little different than two sprinters going the same speed and at full power shouldering each to maintain position or keep from falling. There are always riders who’ve slowed and are drifting back through the peloton at that very point in a sprint finish and if they got shouldered like this there would be many more crashes, as they’re not bracing for contact.
This, IMO, was like a football play where the ball carrier is already a step out of bounds, is slowing up and and stands more upright, when a tackler comes in still at full playing speed and a lower crouch and blows up the runner in spectacular but illegal fashion.
So I guess the Lotto guy should just get be a15-yard unsportsmanlike penalty?
Doesn't look like that to me. It looks like he gave the guy a shoulder jab from behind and sent him hard to the tarmac.
If he doesn't put his shoulder Van Gils is over the barriers and we have a Jakobsen case. Insanity to blame this on Van Gils. Yes I'm biased but come one guys. He comes with way more speed sees a gap on the left, goes for it and Capiot just keeps going to the left while looking behind in this right side...
You do realize that if Van Gils doest put his shoulder Capiot just keeps going left cause he doesn't realize he's there and we have an even bigger crash?
People always think shoulder barges are just pure violent when they are more often than not to make sure they actually don't crash.
He could squeeze those thingies on his handlebars that slow him down.
Sounds reasonable—I couldn’t remember if there was a wider road than the walking path under the funicular.
The shoulder seems quite a natural reaction to me. You don't protect yourself like that and you're taken out.
Yeah you've definitely never ever ride a race bike at 70km/u if you think fully hitting the break there is a smart thing to do lmao
I believe Capiot had already stopped his drift, thoughVan Gills probably couldn’t anticipate that.
Exactly, and I don't think it came from UAE car. On previous sprint stages I took note that Pogi saving some enery within 3k mark just like Vinge did today.
The Arkea guy's work was done. He went near the rails and drifted back. Van Gils should see that. Also, his guy had no chance to even get a whiff of the finish line. It looked like Van Gils shouldered him out of frustration.
No, I've never sprinted at 70km/h. Neither have you.
He hasn't, just watched it again 10 times. He stops his drift, looks behind and unwillingly starts drifting again. Van Gils is already besides him when he realizes they're gonna collide so he puts out his shoulder which is a normal reflex there to not you know, lose his face like Jakobsen. It sucks for Capiot, he isn't doing it on purpose, he's completely empty and is trying to find a safe way to the back and probably thinks his left side is free cause he already looked earlier. The problem is that the speed difference is so big there he couldn't see Van Gils coming.
I've watched it a few more times at full speed and slo-mo and there are basically 2 bike width "lanes" to the left of Capiot when he looks back. He obviously doesn't see Van Gils when he pulls off and goes one "lane" to the left. There's still room for Van Gils to get through so he continues forward but as Capiot looks to his right (instead of left again) he moves even more to the left, into the "lane" next to the barriers. I'm not certain Van Gils could have stopped in time and there would have probably been a wreck even if he had. I guess maybe he should have anticipated that Capiot might continue to drift left all the way to the barriers but I think he just thought/hoped he wouldn't. I'm not sure I would penalize either.
He didn't need to fully hit the break, just reduce his speed to the same as Capiot, and there was time enough to do so gradually. He very deliberately took the risk, knowing that if he didn't the stage would probably be lost. If he applies something called "vorausschauendes Fahren" (lit. "driving with foresight" in German), this crash never happens.
I actually have participated in bunch sprints, not at 70km/u that's true, but anyways.
Van Gils was doing a leadout for De Lie, not sure what you're even trying to say. Just look at the overhead again. There's a pretty big gap on the left of Capiot, who stops for a second and then starts drifting to the left again. It's absolutely normal Van Gils goes for that gap. Plenty of room. Sure maybe the shoulder thing is a bit violent but is just a normal reflex to make sure you yourself don't crash into the barriers.
There's like 4 guys in his wheel going the same speed. He can't gradually slow down. The moment he realizes they're gonna collide is like 1s before they collide. Before that he goes in a gap that's pretty big. Capiot starts drifting left again in the end cause he doesn't realize there's riders coming there. that's the problem. If he doesn't everyone goes through.
Van Gils's reaction aside, it's incredibly dangerous to drift back like that so riders can't pass you (safely) on both sides. Once he was clear of the main group, he should have drifted back without looking over his shoulders, but instead make sure that he keeps his lane and goes straight.
Guys drifting back is part of the danger/excitement of the final sprint. Great sprinters and leadout men have to negotiate them as well.
No longer possible since they remodelled Place Gramont. They could come from Rue Marca instead but that's the least convenient place to enter Place Verdun.
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