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Tour de France Tour de France 2024, Stage 13: Agen > Pau, 165.3 km

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Really? I think there have been some valid points made by people with differing opinions here but a front on slow-mo of just the moment they come together is not enough to judge anything. Post two overhead vids, one in slo-mo and one in full speed from just before Van Gils starts to move up and Capiot pulls off and ask your question again.
 
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Seeing that head on in slomo makes it appear pretty egregious, and it's obvious by my comments I think he should be sent home, but the natural instinct of self preservation can switch on very quickly. He may very well have felt he had no choice but to do what he did to save himself, whether that was right or wrong. I'd like to hear his side of the moment.
 

I agree. Fairly sure I know what I'd have done there. Protect myself and let the chips fall where they may.
 
Seeing that head on in slomo makes it appear pretty egregious, and it's obvious by my comments I think he should be sent home, but the natural instinct of self preservation can switch on very quickly. He may very well have felt he had no choice but to do what he did to save himself, whether that was right or wrong. I'd like to hear his side of the moment.
There’s also the fact that all of these guys are gassed at the end of a hard stage and a tough 2 weeks of racing. Amazing their brains can function at all by that point!
 
Seeing that head on in slomo makes it appear pretty egregious, and it's obvious by my comments I think he should be sent home, but the natural instinct of self preservation can switch on very quickly. He may very well have felt he had no choice but to do what he did to save himself, whether that was right or wrong. I'd like to hear his side of the moment.
Yes, mistakes by both riders. If I was a commissar, I say no fines. Let's move on.
 
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If you watch Van Gils’ wheel he’s really close to the barriers and almost hits them even after the shoulder. I think it was self preservation, once he got to that point it was the only option. Seems like a racing incident imo, both guys could have been better but also really hard to judge best options in a split second.
 
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I agree. Fairly sure I know what I'd have done there. Protect myself and let the chips fall where they may.
So he was relegated and fined.
 

I agree. Fairly sure I know what I'd have done there. Protect myself and let the chips fall where they may.

All I know is that a lot of people here would've prefered to get their face in the barriers. I don't understand why they have to punish someone every single time. Incidents exist you know.
 
100% Capiot's mistake.
He checked behind and must drift to far left immediately.
He drifted to left a little bit and there is enough space for MVG.. But Capiot drifted again without checking behind.
MVG is impossible to predict Capiot's sudden move. Collision is must.
Capiot's mistake spoiled De Lie a chance to win.

If drifting around in the front is OK, the race will be total different.
I can image drifts will be a tactic to slow down fast rider.
 
100% Capiot's mistake.
He checked behind and must drift to far left immediately.
He drifted to left a little bit and there is enough space for MVG.. But Capiot drifted again without checking behind.
MVG is impossible to predict Capiot's sudden move. Collision is must.
Capiot's mistake spoiled De Lie a chance to win.

If drifting around in the front is OK, the race will be total different.
I can image drifts will be a tactic to slow down fast rider.
Sorry too little, that’s too late.
 
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