Tour de France Tour de France 2024, Stage 13: Agen > Pau, 165.3 km

[Stelvio]

No no it's more funny than that. He's not relegated at all. He's just fined and gets a UCI point penalty (which is worse than getting regelated).

The UCI moves in mysterious ways...

 

[RobertCrawley]

Sounds like it. 1500 as well, not a wife-kisser.

Or 7 1/2 kisses.

 

[Netserk]

Yeah, I'd go straight up Marca and then turn right to take the same last 1.5 km as in 2006.

So like this: https://ridewithgps.com/routes/47535160

The detour from km 7.5 to 14 with the hill can be omitted.

 

[Red Rick]

Lanterne Rouge discussion on the crash:
View: https://www.youtube.com/live/i09pbGRH98c?t=1774s


In short, they put most blame on Capiots drifting towards the barriers while looking around.

ofcourse they do. Van Gils is Belgian.

"We care so much about safety, but once it's convenient it's completely okay to just blast someone at 60kph"

 

[jaylew]

If you would’ve just watched the last 5km you would think it was just a boring sprint stage.
It was just insane hard riding all day. Can’t wait for tomorrow.

That would be me but I've gathered that there was some kind of action earlier. Echelons, I guess?

 

[toolittle]

100% Capiot's mistake.
He checked behind and must drift to far left immediately.
He drifted to left a little bit and there is enough space for MVG.. But Capiot drifted again without checking behind.
MVG is impossible to predict Capiot's sudden move. Collision is must.
Capiot's mistake spoiled De Lie a chance to win.

If drifting around in the front is OK, the race will be total different.
I can image drifts will be a tactic to slow down fast rider.

 

[Sciatic]

100% Capiot's mistake.
He checked behind and must drift to far left immediately.
He drifted to left a little bit and there is enough space for MVG.. But Capiot drifted again without checking behind.
MVG is impossible to predict Capiot's sudden move. Collision is must.
Capiot's mistake spoiled De Lie a chance to win.

If drifting around in the front is OK, the race will be total different.
I can image drifts will be a tactic to slow down fast rider.

Sorry too little, that’s too late.

 

[jaylew]

Tadej says they will now ride defensively in the Pyrenees. I'm not sure he will be able to do that.

Tadej Pogacar, à la veille des Pyrénées : « On peut maintenant courir un peu sur la défensive » (Tour de France)

Le Maillot Jaune Tadej Pogacar, à la veille des Pyrénées, a vécu une journée intense et perdu un coéquipier, Juan Ayuso. Il annonce qu'il va peut-être courir différemment à partir de samedi.

www.lequipe.fr

Vingegaard would say it's not a lack of balls, just smart racing.

Makes sense, he's got the lead and he knows Visma doesn't have the strong mountain doms they usually have this Tour. Still, Pog gonna Pog.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Tadej says they will now ride defensively in the Pyrenees. I'm not sure he will be able to do that.

Tadej Pogacar, à la veille des Pyrénées : « On peut maintenant courir un peu sur la défensive » (Tour de France)

Le Maillot Jaune Tadej Pogacar, à la veille des Pyrénées, a vécu une journée intense et perdu un coéquipier, Juan Ayuso. Il annonce qu'il va peut-être courir différemment à partir de samedi.

www.lequipe.fr

I mean really he says that he can ride a bit more defensively, but also that he would like to win the stage if he doesn‘t have to do too much for it.

 

[Samamba]

ofcourse they do. Van Gils is Belgian.

"We care so much about safety, but once it's convenient it's completely okay to just blast someone at 60kph"

Capiot is also Belgian, what are you on about

Patrick isn't even Belgian.

 

[red_flanders]

Defensive Pog would be good for Remco.

 

[toolittle]

Sorry too little, that’s too late.

Look left before turn left. Don't look right and turn left.
I had to tell him before the race started.
That's too late.

 

[ManicJack]

Defensive Pog would be good for Remco.

Tomorrow will probably be a GC snooze fest with a mountain sprint. Hopefully fireworks from the gun on Sunday.

 

[Red Rick]

Capiot is also Belgian, what are you on about

Patrick isn't even Belgian.

But Van Gils is a big talent. Capiot is a big whatever.

It's always the same. SAFETY when you can blame organizers. Say nothing when riders hospitalize each other

 

[red_flanders]

Tomorrow will probably be a GC snooze fest with a mountain sprint. Hopefully fireworks from the gun on Sunday.

I'll take advantage and hit snooze until the latter bit of the race. I would assume someone's gonna attack from at least 5k out?

 

[yaco]

michael matthews has been garbage this tour to spite me, personally, for picking him in Velogames

There is not alot for his style of rider at the TDF. Stage eight was suitable and he inexplicably lost 6 minutes and he just missed the break on stage 9. he should have been reserved for the Vuelta which has a number of suitable stgaes.

 

[Danskebjerge]

I agree with the decision to punish Van Gils, but he should be sanctioned much harder.

I hope that some day the UCI and race organizers can agree on a set of rules that are so strict that they will actually make riders think before they do reckless things.

 

[Samamba]

But Van Gils is a big talent. Capiot is a big whatever.

It's always the same. SAFETY when you can blame organizers. Say nothing when riders hospitalize each other

Ah Red Rick and his anti Belgian feelings... always great to see.

That's apart from the fact that they are sometimes hypocritical, but today they just keep going by blaming the one who's not following his line, which they have been doing for 5 years or so. It's not cause someone crashes and someone else doesn't in a collusion that the one staying upright is always the one in the wrong, even if he "blasts" him (which for me isn't even true but ok. He doesn't have to fly into the barriers cause someone else can't ride straight and wants to look back mid sprint.

And yes, you can call me biased, I am probably, but tbc I thought De Lie came off pretty good without a DQ earlier this week (while for some reason he didn't get so much heat then).

 

[Samamba]

reckless things.

Like looking behind and drifting to the left while slowing down mid sprint?

 

[Valv.Piti]

Great stage! Finally a flat stage that was worth paying attention to, I was glued to the screen for 3 1/2 hours.

 

[yaco]

At the end of the day Van Gils tries to take a marginal gap and had no thought of aborting the move. In every sprint riders have been blocked on the barriers and I have yet to see one try to barge themselves when they are blocked.

 

[Red Rick]

Ah Red Rick and his anti Belgian feelings... always great to see.

That's apart from the fact that they are sometimes hypocritical, but today they just keep going by blaming the one who's not following his line, which they have been doing for 5 years or so. It's not cause someone crashes and someone else doesn't in a collusion that the one staying upright is always the one in the wrong, even if he "blasts" him (which for me isn't even true but ok. He doesn't have to fly into the barriers cause someone else can't ride straight and wants to look back mid sprint.

And yes, you can call me biased, I am probably, but tbc I thought De Lie came off pretty good without a DQ earlier this week (while for some reason he didn't get so much heat then).

These guys just always blow the wind is blowing.

 

[Brullnux]

But Van Gils is a big talent. Capiot is a big whatever.

It's always the same. SAFETY when you can blame organizers. Say nothing when riders hospitalize each other

Drifting across 1/3 of the road is not safe in that situation. I think Van Gils should have let up once he saw it happening, but when he began the move there was more than enough space to move into. Dipping his shoulder isn't really the same as a shoulder barge, either.

 

[Brullnux]

At the end of the day Van Gils tries to take a marginal gap and had no thought of aborting the move. In every sprint riders have been blocked on the barriers and I have yet to see one try to barge themselves when they are blocked.

I just don't think it was a marginal gap when he began to go for it, it was probably like two cyclists' width. He should've stopped pedalling as hard when Capiot drifted (not braked), but there was nothing wrong with the initial decision.

 

[Samamba]

These guys just always blow the wind is blowing.

I am not a huge fan either (or well I disagree about a lot of things), but they have always been freaky with their holding the line so it's pretty consistent here that they blame Capiot who well does not hold his line at all.