Tour de France 2025 route rumours and announcements

[Peyroteo94]

I refuse to believe both Ventoux and Alpe d'huez will be in the route together.

Mythical Iban Mayo and Pantani's records are in trouble. Pogi will destroy them.

 

[Froome]

Mythical Iban Mayo and Pantani's records are in trouble. Pogi will destroy them.

Iban mayo record is probably the only record who is not in trouble, unless they do a MTT on Ventoux, which i don't think will happen.

 

[ashhutch1997]

Iban mayo record is probably the only record who is not in trouble, unless they do a MTT on Ventoux, which i don't think will happen.

I don't know, the records aren't being broken, they are being obliterated.

 

[YavorD]

Iban mayo record is probably the only record who is not in trouble, unless they do a MTT on Ventoux, which i don't think will happen.

Yes. I don't think any team will drill it from the start as hard as Visma did on PdB

 

[YavorD]

Which led to Alpe d'Huez being wasted!

Was it really? I find AdH 2013 quite funny with Froome being destroyed by Purito and Quintana, having Porte (?) to be punished for getting illegal food or something for him..

 

[Froome]

I think alpe d'huez was wasted when they decided to do after Granon in 2022.

Talking about Granon, it's a shame the climb will not comeback next year.

 

[Red Rick]

I think alpe d'huez was wasted when they decided to do after Granon in 2022.

Talking about Granon, it's a shame the climb will not comeback next year.

Granon is whatever. It's a good mountain finish, not Zoncolan or anything. Granon actually should be mildly similar to AdH that it limits action before but it was insane circumstances in 2022. We won't see that again.

 

[Froome]

Granon is whatever. It's a good mountain finish, not Zoncolan or anything. Granon actually should be mildly similar to AdH that it limits action before but it was insane circumstances in 2022. We won't see that again.

I think the fact Granon is a steep climb, decent length, high altitude(i know we disagree in the impact of altitude), narrow and rougher road makes the climb a great mountain finish.

What happened on Galibier increased the gaps on Granon, but i think the gaps would be significant anyway.

 

[Netserk]

Granon is whatever. It's a good mountain finish, not Zoncolan or anything. Granon actually should be mildly similar to AdH that it limits action before but it was insane circumstances in 2022. We won't see that again.

Fairly plausible to have a stage similar to the 2011 Galibier stage.

Pinerolo > Col du Granon Serre Chevalier

198.0 km, +5863 m. Bike ride in Comune di Bricherasio, Piemonte

ridewithgps.com

 

[Red Rick]

Fairly plausible to have a stage similar to the 2011 Galibier stage.

Pinerolo > Col du Granon Serre Chevalier

198.0 km, +5863 m. Bike ride in Comune di Bricherasio, Piemonte

ridewithgps.com

That is indeed a possible design.

Tour thinks it's hypothetical though

 

[Netserk]

That is indeed a possible design.

Tour thinks it's hypothetical though

It's the stage they'll have the day after Finestre, just wait and see.

 

[xuziqiangnuctech@outlook.]

Another year with no Finestere？With the bombshell of disappointment, I 'd like to ask
HOW HARD CAN IT BE

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Iban mayo record is probably the only record who is not in trouble, unless they do a MTT on Ventoux, which i don't think will happen.

TT times top Ventoux list for a reason. Good pacing from the bottom is important for such long climbs. However, if Visma-Pog decide for a team time trial similar to PDB (strong pace from the start) then the record can fall.

 

[Red Rick]

It's the stage they'll have the day after Finestre, just wait and see.

I memed Croix de Coeur into happening once. I remember what the result was

 

[OlavEH]

Except (Finestre) - Sestriere about every rumoured mountain stage would be mono climb stages. Superbagneres, Peyragudes, Ventoux, Granon, AdH and La Plagne.

The best of these would be a stage with Bales-Superbagneres and Galibier-Granon.

The worst would be all of Peyragudes, Ventoux, AdH and La Plagne, while no Granon and no Bales on the Superbagneres stage.

 

[dazaau]

Please please do AdH. I want to see Jonas and pogi destroy some records.

 

[Red Rick]

If we get Alpe d'Huez, I want the stage to be as easy as possible.

 

[Peyroteo94]

If we get Alpe d'Huez, I want the stage to be as easy as possible.

Why?

 

[pastronef]

Why?

for them to come full speed and break the record

 

[Red Rick]

Why?

Because Alpe d'Huez is always only about Alpe d'Huez and attacking before is pointless, so I wish to not waste fatigue and queen stage billing on a climb that's always only gonna be about Alpe d'Huez.

 

[Froome]

On Velowire, now they put Ventoux on tuesday. ASO is drunk if is true. That's the kind of stages who should be in thr weekend.

 

[Red Rick]

TT times top Ventoux list for a reason. Good pacing from the bottom is important for such long climbs. However, if Visma-Pog decide for a team time trial similar to PDB (strong pace from the start) then the record can fall.

Ventoux they usually go pretty hard from the bottom, which is why gaps tend to blow up if there is action before Chalet Reynard.

The thing that makes Ventoux so different is that it's an extremely wind dependent climb, and I'm pretty sure that when the record got set it was more about the wind than the TT factor. The Alpe d'Huez record was set at the end of a mountain stage, not the 2004 MTT because the 90s were just that much faster. In addition, Ventoux was only visited once in the 90s, and it wasn't a MTF but a finish all the way in Carpentras.

The Ventoux record is only slightly faster than Pogacar's recent Monte Grappa record, which was a double climb during a 3 week training vacation

 

[OlavEH]

La Plagne the day after AdH. And from Albertville of all things? They could have done Croix de Fer-Madeleine-La Plagne if they startet from Bourg d'Oisans or surroundings. If they start in Albertville they will be north of Madeleine. Will they then do something like Roselend and Les Arcs before La Plagne?

Anyway; right now the possible layout rumoured on Velowire is abysmal. Mur de Bretagne and Mont Dore as the only difficulties the first week. Superbagneres on the day before Peyragudes and the latter possibly as an ITT. Mont Ventoux, AdH and La Plagne the last week.

 

[E_F_]

Another year with no Finestere？With the bombshell of disappointment, I 'd like to ask
HOW HARD CAN IT BE

I think it's actually a pretty hard climb.

 

[Froome]

La Plagne the day after AdH. And from Albertville of all things? They could have done Croix de Fer-Madeleine-La Plagne if they startet from Bourg d'Oisans or surroundings. If they start in Albertville they will be north of Madeleine. Will they then do something like Roselend and Les Arcs before La Plagne?

Anyway; right now the possible layout rumoured on Velowire is abysmal. Mur de Bretagne and Mont Dore as the only difficulties the first week. Superbagneres on the day before Peyragudes and the latter possibly as an ITT. Mont Ventoux, AdH and La Plagne the last week.

If Mont ventoux is on tuesday, i think there will be a third stage on the pyrenees.

Possible finish in grenoble, in the last week according to velowire. They can do something like la bastille there.