Tour de France 2025 route rumours and announcements

[Netserk]

That is indeed a possible design.

Tour thinks it's hypothetical though

It's the stage they'll have the day after Finestre, just wait and see.

 

[xuziqiangnuctech@outlook.]

Another year with no Finestere？With the bombshell of disappointment, I 'd like to ask
HOW HARD CAN IT BE

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Iban mayo record is probably the only record who is not in trouble, unless they do a MTT on Ventoux, which i don't think will happen.

TT times top Ventoux list for a reason. Good pacing from the bottom is important for such long climbs. However, if Visma-Pog decide for a team time trial similar to PDB (strong pace from the start) then the record can fall.

 

[OlavEH]

Except (Finestre) - Sestriere about every rumoured mountain stage would be mono climb stages. Superbagneres, Peyragudes, Ventoux, Granon, AdH and La Plagne.

The best of these would be a stage with Bales-Superbagneres and Galibier-Granon.

The worst would be all of Peyragudes, Ventoux, AdH and La Plagne, while no Granon and no Bales on the Superbagneres stage.

 

[dazaau]

Please please do AdH. I want to see Jonas and pogi destroy some records.

 

[Peyroteo94]

If we get Alpe d'Huez, I want the stage to be as easy as possible.

Why?

 

[pastronef]

Why?

for them to come full speed and break the record

 

[Froome]

On Velowire, now they put Ventoux on tuesday. ASO is drunk if is true. That's the kind of stages who should be in thr weekend.

 

[OlavEH]

La Plagne the day after AdH. And from Albertville of all things? They could have done Croix de Fer-Madeleine-La Plagne if they startet from Bourg d'Oisans or surroundings. If they start in Albertville they will be north of Madeleine. Will they then do something like Roselend and Les Arcs before La Plagne?

Anyway; right now the possible layout rumoured on Velowire is abysmal. Mur de Bretagne and Mont Dore as the only difficulties the first week. Superbagneres on the day before Peyragudes and the latter possibly as an ITT. Mont Ventoux, AdH and La Plagne the last week.

 

[E_F_]

Another year with no Finestere？With the bombshell of disappointment, I 'd like to ask
HOW HARD CAN IT BE

I think it's actually a pretty hard climb.

 

[Froome]

La Plagne the day after AdH. And from Albertville of all things? They could have done Croix de Fer-Madeleine-La Plagne if they startet from Bourg d'Oisans or surroundings. If they start in Albertville they will be north of Madeleine. Will they then do something like Roselend and Les Arcs before La Plagne?

Anyway; right now the possible layout rumoured on Velowire is abysmal. Mur de Bretagne and Mont Dore as the only difficulties the first week. Superbagneres on the day before Peyragudes and the latter possibly as an ITT. Mont Ventoux, AdH and La Plagne the last week.

If Mont ventoux is on tuesday, i think there will be a third stage on the pyrenees.

Possible finish in grenoble, in the last week according to velowire. They can do something like la bastille there.

 

[ChiefMasterPro]

I don't care about if they ride Alpe d'Huez. I only wish, they finally won't approach it from the Croix de Fer. You basically can take three HC climbs before the Alpe: Galibier, Glandon, Croix de Fer. The Tour rode the Croix de Fer the last three occasions. Twice planned, once due to the Galibier being closed. Before that they chose to ride the Alpe twice.

You can't completely compare the Tour de France Femmes with the mens Tour, but Glandon created chaos. So please but the right climbs into the stage. If we wwant to see a record broken, a 4500D+ 140km stage would also do the job. Ideally with a 200+km 5000D+ queenstage the day before.

 

[ashhutch1997]

If we get Alpe d'Huez, I want the stage to be as easy as possible.

Yeah 1997 unipurito style.

 

[pman]

I see that latest rumor for that early time trial is stage 5 and supposedly it's just a 20 k inter Caen time trial. What I find interesting about this is that the rumors has been that this would be a team time trial. It seems like that would be a wasted stage, basically making this a 19 stage race. So maybe it'll be an individual time trial? I know a 20 k individual time trial won't make that much of a difference either but at least that'll be a fun early form check for general classification guys.

 

[gregrowlerson]

Ventoux they usually go pretty hard from the bottom, which is why gaps tend to blow up if there is action before Chalet Reynard.

The thing that makes Ventoux so different is that it's an extremely wind dependent climb, and I'm pretty sure that when the record got set it was more about the wind than the TT factor. The Alpe d'Huez record was set at the end of a mountain stage, not the 2004 MTT because the 90s were just that much faster. In addition, Ventoux was only visited once in the 90s, and it wasn't a MTF but a finish all the way in Carpentras.

The Ventoux record is only slightly faster than Pogacar's recent Monte Grappa record, which was a double climb during a 3 week training vacation

I agree about Ventoux being wind dependent. If they got similar conditions next year then surely Pogacar and Vingegaard would destroy Mayo's record, even if the stage was 200 kms instead of 20 kms. Mayo only did it in the Dauphne anyway and as good a climber as he was at times, he wasn't particularly close to Pantani's record on ADH a year earlier.

 

[houtdffan]

I see that latest rumor for that early time trial is stage 5 and supposedly it's just a 20 k inter Caen time trial. What I find interesting about this is that the rumors has been that this would be a team time trial. It seems like that would be a wasted stage, basically making this a 19 stage race. So maybe it'll be an individual time trial? I know a 20 k individual time trial won't make that much of a difference either but at least that'll be a fun early form check for general classification guys.

20K

GTFO Gouvenou

 

[Froome]

20K

GTFO Gouvenou

Gouvenou doing gouvenou things.

 

[Rob5091]

20 km sounds more like a TTT - keep the GC close-ish. Then again it might be a ITT for the same reason.

 

[Froome]

20 km sounds more like a TTT - keep the GC close-ish. Then again it might be a ITT for the same reason.

TTT is probably the most stupid and wasted stage.

If they want to do time trials, how about doing decent time trials, instead of doing waisting stages by doing individual time trials of 20 km or TTT of 20/25 km?


If they want to do proper time trials, they should do a proper ITT of 50/60 km where the differences can be high, and benefit the specialists riders on that area.

If they want to do a MTT, peyragudes is a really stupid idea, because is a short climb of 20 minutes.

They should do a MTT of 40 min effort like Alpe d'huez in 2004.
It would be better doing a MTT to superbagneres.

 

[Red Rick]

Its LeTour, expect 21 wasted stages

 

[Netserk]

Will this manage to be the slowest starting Tour this century? Plausibly the least GC significant first week.

2001: Alpe d'Huez (day 11) - prologue, long TTT and breakaway Vosges stage (8) before then.
2002: La Mongie (12) - prologue, long TTT and a long ITT (10) before then.
2004: La Mongie (13) - prologue, few cobbles, long TTT and breakaway Massif Central stages (11+12) before then.
2006: Pla-de-Beret (12) - prologue, long ITT (8) and breakaway Pyrenees stage (11) before then.
2011: Luz Ardiden (12) - short TTT, HTF and breakaway Massif Central stages (8+9) before then.

2025: Superbagnères (12) - short TTT(?), HTF and breakaway Massif Central stage (10) before then.

 

[Red Rick]

I don't care about if they ride Alpe d'Huez. I only wish, they finally won't approach it from the Croix de Fer. You basically can take three HC climbs before the Alpe: Galibier, Glandon, Croix de Fer. The Tour rode the Croix de Fer the last three occasions. Twice planned, once due to the Galibier being closed. Before that they chose to ride the Alpe twice.

You can't completely compare the Tour de France Femmes with the mens Tour, but Glandon created chaos. So please but the right climbs into the stage. If we wwant to see a record broken, a 4500D+ 140km stage would also do the job. Ideally with a 200+km 5000D+ queenstage the day before.

Still the same lame duck descent and valley if you take Glandon.

What you want before Alpe d'Huez isn't a pass, it's the climb on the opposite side of the valley, which leaves only 4km of flat between the end of the descent and the start of the Alpe

 

[Rob5091]

TTT is probably the most stupid and waisted stage.

If they want to do time trials, how about doing decent time trials, instead of doing waisting stages by doing individual time trials of 20 km or TTT of 20/25 km?


If they want to do proper time trials, they should do a proper ITT of 50/60 km where the differences can be high, and benefit the specialists riders on that area.

If they want to do a MTT, peyragudes is a really stupi idea, because is a short climb of 20 minutes.

They should do a MTT of 40 min effort like Alpe d'huez in 2004.
It would be better doing a MTT to superbagneres.

You're looking at this the wrong way - not as the Tour organizers do. It's like going to Vegas and expecting Sinatra to belt out "My Way" as the first number. The first week of the Tour is like seeing the support band at a concert.

 

[Netserk]

Still the same lame duck descent and valley if you take Glandon.

What you want before Alpe d'Huez isn't a pass, it's the climb on the opposite side of the valley, which leaves only 4km of flat between the end of the descent and the start of the Alpe

Yeah, it should be a viable option from that side in the future.

Hmm, you got me thinking ...

Le Bourg-d'Oisans > Le Bourg-d'Oisans

180.9 km, +5630 m. Bike ride in Le Bourg-d'Oisans, Auvergne-Rhône-Alpes

ridewithgps.com

 

[ice&fire]

Yeah, it should be a viable option from that side in the future.

Hmm, you got me thinking ...

Le Bourg-d'Oisans > Le Bourg-d'Oisans

180.9 km, +5630 m. Bike ride in Le Bourg-d'Oisans, Auvergne-Rhône-Alpes

ridewithgps.com

I'm not sure descending through the Dutch corner is viable