Tour de France 2025 route rumours and announcements

[Devil's Elbow]

2009 and 2017 enter the chat.

Mont du Chat was far better than anything seen this year and both Peyragudes and Galibier would have been guaranteed to see action from range in the current era. Then add in the Foix stage that did actually deliver and it isn't even close. That Tour was very bad overall, but aside from the horrendous Izoard MTF as the final mountain stage I think the (limited number of) mountain stages was actually decent and certainly no worse than a lot of the stages we've seen deliver in the current era.

 

[fbjim]

I know I'm not exactly preaching to the choir here and you have to be careful to reveal any optimism but at the first looks of it I, kinda like it?

Yeah it's fine

I need to add to the TDF route drinking game: "climb that hasn't been used in over 15 years, and a lot of people have been asking for, is brought back - everyone immediately claims that the climb was always bad"

 

[ashhutch1997]

Mont du Chat was far better than anything seen this year and both Peyragudes and Galibier would have been guaranteed to see action from range in the current era. Then add in the Foix stage that did actually deliver and it isn't even close.

Yeah forgot about them, it was the Izoard stage that was awful

 

[YavorD]

Are they using the same side of Loze as in 2020?

 

[Eddy Evenepoel]

Are they using the same side of Loze as in 2020?

No, I dont think so. 2020 was from Meribel, 2025 is from Courchevel.

 

[Netserk]

Are they using the same side of Loze as in 2020?

2020:

2025:

 

[ashhutch1997]

The stage to Courchavel could create some long range attacks on the Madeleine, given that they are going up the easy side of Loze.
Like a watered down version of Galibier 2011.

 

[tonymikejoe]

Tour de France route cliches we endure every twelve months:

"This is a route for the climbers."
"Riders who don't bring their climbing legs will struggle."
"A route for the mountain goats."
"One of the most mountainous TdF routes of all time."

 

[Eddy Evenepoel]

2025:

Massive draft advantage from 15 km to go to 5,5 km to go, not very steep here. I don't see big gaps between the best (Pogacar and Vingegaard, maybe Roglic and Remco if they are at their absolutely best).

 

[YavorD]

2020:

2025:

Thanks.
I actually like the 2025 more. At least it doesn't limit the action to the last 3 kilometres.

 

[Red Rick]

Long range attack on Col du Pré is better than on Madeleine

 

[Rob5091]

Prudhomme hoping Pogi does n't get yellow until the Pyrennnes? MvdP could wrap up the Green Jersey early too.
If I was a betting man I'd wager a few centimes on a new record up Ventoux.

 

[snipeheem]

Prudhomme hoping Pogi does n't get yellow until the Pyrennnes? MvdP could wrap up the Green Jersey early too.
If I was a betting man I'd wager a few centimes on a new record up Ventoux.

Hautacam too

 

[Netserk]

First week ITTs:

2025, stage 5: 33 km
2024, stage 7: 25 km
2023: -
2022, stage 1: 13 km
2021, stage 5: 27 km
2020: -
2019: -
2018: -
2017, stage 1: 14 km
2016: -
2015, stage 1: 14 km
2014: -
2013: -
2012, prologue: 6 km
2011: -
2010, prologue: 9 km
2009, stage 1: 16 km
2008, stage 4: 30 km
2007, prologue: 8 km
2006, prologue: 7 km, stage 7: 52 km
2005, stage 1: 19 km
2004, prologue: 6 km
2003, prologue: 7 km
2002, prologue: 7 km
2001, prologue: 8 km
2000, stage 1: 17 km
1999, prologue: 7 km, stage 8: 57 km
1998, prologue: 6 km, stage 7: 58 km
1997, prologue: 7 km
1996, prologue: 9 km, stage 8: 31 km

No ITT in the 30 most recent routes has been longer than the 2025 one and as early in the race. Only 3 times a longer one in the first week, most recently in 2006.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

MvdP could wrap up the Green Jersey early too.
If I was a betting man

For your sake, I hope you aren't.

 

[Netserk]

Thésy of Dauphiné '23 fame:

 

[Krzysztof_O]

The worst first half of a GT in recent years, I think. They say this year was backloaded but at least there was Galibier stage plus some good action on gravel. Here, except a couple of uphill sprints to the line and the TT, there will be no GC action until stage 12.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

 

[Eddy Evenepoel]

There is no way that one ends with a bunch sprint at least, this is for a strong break.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Massive draft advantage from 15 km to go to 5,5 km to go, not very steep here. I don't see big gaps between the best (Pogacar and Vingegaard, maybe Roglic and Remco if they are at their absolutely best).

Don't underestimate altitude and 5500m of elevation

 

[Peyroteo94]

Prudhomme hoping Pogi does n't get yellow until the Pyrennnes? MvdP could wrap up the Green Jersey early too.
If I was a betting man I'd wager a few centimes on a new record up Ventoux.

I think Pogacar will wear yellow after stage 10

 

[Netserk]

The worst first half of a GT in recent years, I think. They say this year was backloaded but at least there was Galibier stage plus some good action on gravel. Here, except a couple of uphill sprints to the line and the TT, there will be no GC action until stage 12.

I think it's much better than feared.

Superbagnères is after the MTT, so better pacing than initially thought.

 

[Peyroteo94]

I think it's much better than feared.

Superbagnères is after the MTT, so better pacing than initially thought.

I will change my take, Pogacar will wear yellow already after stage 5. Too many hilly stages and he can grab some 20 seconds before the TT and then nuke the TT. Remco will not gain enough to take the yellow jersey

 

[Krzysztof_O]

I think it's much better than feared.

Ok, maybe stage 4 or 6 will end up like San Luca stage this year plus a couple of last minute actions in other stages. Good that those hills are there but I'm still not convinced.

 

[Escarabajo]

Quick thoughts after looking at it at a glance:

- Better than what they were showing in La Flamme Rouge a week ago.
- Superbagneres a repeat of that Bernard Hinault escapade that finally costed him the 1986 Tour de France. It looks better than I expected.
- La Plagne stage better than expected.
- Medium stages don't look that promising but I have to take a closer look at the details.

I am so happy that they are finally returning to those infamous climbs and stages from 1986: Granon, Superbagneres, Puy de Dome.