Tour de France 2025 route rumours and announcements

[Boehmand]

I agree with this. I think Vingegaard is going to be really strong this year. There's a lot of recency bias because Pogi was so good last year, but people are ignoring two key things: 1) Jonas wasn't in top shape last year; and 2) he (and Visma) know how good Pogi was last year and so they know what they need to do to beat him. It's harder for Pogi, because he doesn't know how much better than last year JV can be. I just hope Pogi is preparing with a mind to how bad JV's preparation was last year (i.e. expecting him to be much, much stronger), rather than with a mind to his own superiority last year.

I agree - it's the great unknown - how good is Vingegaard.

And we can't even use Dauphine as a guide, because it's his first race after a very long break - and there are no big mountains the first 10 days of the Tour - so he is probably not at his peak there, and neither should Pogacar be.

 

[Boehmand]

stage 20 really should have been a 50-60km ITT

what in the world is the point of the current stage 20? Was Gouvenou drunk when designing it?

3 ITTs in the same Tour is too much IMO.

Also the terrain on stage 20 is not easy, it's hard enough that if someone still only needs seconds, rather than minutes, it can be done on that stage - especially that late in a hard GT

A Pogacar 40 seconds down before that one - he goes long range, for sure, same for Remco.

If not it's an excellent puncheur stage with a rapid succession of smaller climbs all day.

 

[Boehmand]

So stagre 12 will be the day that Vingegaard shows up with the Danish bald eagle haircut to psych out the whole UAE team.

Vingegaard doing anything cool off the bike is impossible

 

[houtdffan]

3 ITTs in the same Tour is too much IMO.

Also the terrain on stage 20 is not easy, it's hard enough that if someone still only needs seconds, rather than minutes, it can be done on that stage - especially that late in a hard GT

A Pogacar 40 seconds down before that one - he goes long range, for sure, same for Remco.

If not it's an excellent puncheur stage with a rapid succession of smaller climbs all day.

one of the TTs would be an MTT, and a very short one at that. That is more of an MTF

even a stage 20 ITT would still have a low amount of ITT km compared to a traditional tour

 

[ashhutch1997]

I really want to see the yellow jersey caught behind a crash and his rival winning GC on the final day though.

Who says that can't happen in a bunch sprint?

 

[Rackham]

Who says that can't happen in a bunch sprint?

It's about the principle. Changing the final stage from an honorary parade around the Champs-Élysées to a deliberate attempt to create chaos with the narrow Montmartre climb deserves the outcome that would be the ultimate finality of their stage design: chaos and drama with the yellow jersey suffering disaster.

Or better still, a little bit of rain that throws everything up in the air (including the possibility the stage gets neutralized leaving fans 'disappointed') because traditionally whenever it rains on the Champs stage, GC times are cancelled. But here now with the added Montmartre climb put in there deliberately to create a GC day in the final km's of the Tour? Prudhomme would face a tough choice.

 

[BigCoward]

Bookies currently have Pog at 1/2 and Jonas at 13/5. I'd have them at 5/6 and 6/5. Maybe a bit more separation as I think the route hugely favours Pog.

But Jonas was incredible last year without ideal prep, and has been laser focused on this one goal while Pog has been going psycho all over the place.

 

[Netserk]

Anyone knows when will we have the full route revealed?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1929546043978633459

View: https://x.com/LeTour/status/1929546043978633459

 

[Gigs_98]

Honestly, replacing a big bunch of the flat stages with hilly ones is a development this sport should have taken ages ago and I love we are actually seeing something in that direction. Only 5 nailed on bunch sprints is genuinely great.

 

[Mayomaniac]

Vingegaard doing anything cool off the bike is impossible

Still living in his small hometown and not being a tax evading mercenary is kinda cool

 

[Potomac]

We need that one graphic that has all 21 stages in a single profile

 

[Netserk]

Stage	Type	Date	Start and Finish	Distance	Details
1	Flat	Sat 07/05/2025	Lille Métropole > Lille Métropole	184.9 km	Stage 1
2	Hilly	Sun 07/06/2025	Lauwin-Planque > Boulogne-sur-Mer	209.1 km	Stage 2
3	Flat	Mon 07/07/2025	Valenciennes > Dunkerque	178.3 km	Stage 3
4	Hilly	Tue 07/08/2025	Amiens Métropole > Rouen	174.2 km	Stage 4
5	Individual time-trial	Wed 07/09/2025	Caen > Caen	33 km	Stage 5
6	Hilly	Thu 07/10/2025	Bayeux > Vire Normandie	201.5 km	Stage 6
7	Hilly	Fri 07/11/2025	Saint-Malo > Mûr-de-Bretagne Guerlédan	197 km	Stage 7
8	Flat	Sat 07/12/2025	Saint-Méen-le-Grand > Laval Espace Mayenne	171.4 km	Stage 8
9	Flat	Sun 07/13/2025	Chinon > Châteauroux	174.1 km	Stage 9
10	Mountain	Mon 07/14/2025	Ennezat > Le Mont-Dore Puy de Sancy	165.3 km	Stage 10
-	Rest Day	Tue 07/15/2025	Toulouse		Rest 1
11	Flat	Wed 07/16/2025	Toulouse > Toulouse	156.8 km	Stage 11
12	Mountain	Thu 07/17/2025	Auch > Hautacam	180.6 km	Stage 12
13	Individual time-trial	Fri 07/18/2025	Loudenvielle > Peyragudes	10.9 km	Stage 13
14	Mountain	Sat 07/19/2025	Pau > Luchon-Superbagnères	182.6 km	Stage 14
15	Hilly	Sun 07/20/2025	Muret > Carcassonne	169.3 km	Stage 15
-	Rest Day	Mon 07/21/2025	Montpellier		Rest 2
16	Mountain	Tue 07/22/2025	Montpellier > Mont Ventoux	171.5 km	Stage 16
17	Flat	Wed 07/23/2025	Bollène > Valence	160.4 km	Stage 17
18	Mountain	Thu 07/24/2025	Vif > Courchevel Col de la Loze	171.5 km	Stage 18
19	Mountain	Fri 07/25/2025	Albertville > La Plagne	129.9 km	Stage 19
20	Hilly	Sat 07/26/2025	Nantua > Pontarlier	184.2 km	Stage 20
21	Flat	Sun 07/27/2025	Mantes-la-Ville > Paris Champs-Élysées	132.3 km	Stage 21

 

[Boehmand]

Still living in his small hometown and not being a tax evading mercenary is kinda cool

You are I have very different definitions of the word "cool"

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Honestly, replacing a big bunch of the flat stages with hilly ones is a development this sport should have taken ages ago and I love we are actually seeing something in that direction. Only 5 nailed on bunch sprints is genuinely great.

Unfortunately three of them are on weekends.

 

[AupaPyama]

Honestly, replacing a big bunch of the flat stages with hilly ones is a development this sport should have taken ages ago and I love we are actually seeing something in that direction. Only 5 nailed on bunch sprints is genuinely great.

I think you're pointing at stage 1, 3, 8, 9 and 17 as bunch sprints right?

Just as at this years Giro there are a lot of hilly stages indeed (2, 4, 6, 7, 11, 21?), imo a little bit too much of the same. Who is gonna be the Pedersen of the Tour?

The parcours looks pretty bad. First mountain in stage 10. Besides the time trial (Evenepoel/Ganna) the first 9 stages are bunch sprints, group sprints and 1 punch sprint. That can be pretty boring. At least the Giro had mountains in stage 7 but the first two weeks of the Giro were also bad.

Hopefully we get exiting sprints between Merlier, Milan, Girmay and Philipsen .

 

[AupaPyama]

Unfortunately three of them are on weekends.

Yes, something I forgot to mention, the second weekend has got 2 bunch sprints?! Does ASO knows people have (more) time to watch in weekends?

 

[Valv.Piti]

I think you're pointing at stage 1, 3, 8, 9 and 17 as bunch sprints right?

Just as at this years Giro there are a lot of hilly stages indeed (2, 4, 6, 7, 11, 21?), imo a little bit too much of the same. Who is gonna be the Pedersen of the Tour?

The parcours looks pretty bad. First mountain in stage 10. Besides the time trial (Evenepoel/Ganna) the first 9 stages are bunch sprints, group sprints and 1 punch sprint. That can be pretty boring. At least the Giro had mountains in stage 7 but the first two weeks of the Giro were also bad.

Hopefully we get exiting sprints between Merlier, Milan, Girmay and Philipsen .

Yes, those are the sprint stages. Wouldnt even be surprised if stage 17 wasn't, but then again, Paris isnt for pure sprinters, so they will probably be extra careful. Stage 2, 4, 6, 7 and 11 are very nice classics parcours for a wide variety of riders - ardennes, flemish classics, very durable sprinters, puncheurs which will also see some GC gaps here and there. Thats the great part about this route. And I really do like stage 10 which Im sure will see some great racing throughout the day - first day in the mountains after 9 days in the flatlands and just before the restday. And you can add decently long early ITT to the mix, and you actually have a pretty good race until they hit the real mountains on stage 12.

I guess my point is ASO deserves some real praise for how they have gone about designing an interesting parcours given the geography they had available until Pyrenees.

 

[hayneplane]

Unfortunately three of them are on weekends.

The Stage 8 and 9 combo is cycling terrorism and an act of someone who wants to torture their audience.

 

[HashRouge]

Does anyone know the area around Loudenvielle? Trying to work out where would be best to watch the TT in person. On Google Maps, it looks like there are a fair few stretches of the route where there won't be much space to spectate on the side of the road. I think we could get the ski lift up the altiport - not sure if that would be more exciting, or find somewhere further down the course.

 

[Cycling111]

I still don't understand the complaints.
Why stage 21 can't be competitive?

Montmartre hoort volgens Richard Plugge niet in de Tour: “Maar we gaan er wel chaos maken”

De slotrit van de komende Tour de France is veel besproken. Organisator ASO heeft namelijk drie keer de beklimming van Montmartre toegevoegd, na het spektakelstuk op de Olympische Spelen van vorig jaar. In de speciale aflevering van de WielerFlits Podcast rondom de RIDE Launch, spreekt Visma |...

www.wielerflits.nl

 

[houtdffan]

Does anyone know the area around Loudenvielle? Trying to work out where would be best to watch the TT in person. On Google Maps, it looks like there are a fair few stretches of the route where there won't be much space to spectate on the side of the road. I think we could get the ski lift up the altiport - not sure if that would be more exciting, or find somewhere further down the course.

stage 20 is the crime. That is perfect for a long and flat ITT

But Gouvenou being Gouvenou gives us a nothing stage

 

[yaco]

stage 20 is the crime. That is perfect for a long and flat ITT

But Gouvenou being Gouvenou gives us a nothing stage

Yeah. Put a boring stage on a weekend!

 

[Gigs_98]

Stage 20 not being a gc stage is annoying because it's a weekend but I actually prefer this over a TT for the sake of the overall race flow. I really prefer the last gc day to be a mountain stage rather than a TT and that's especially the case if the final TT comes straight after the final mountain stage which can lead to very passive racing.

 

[Berflamand]

Any (realistic) chance of an echelon stage this year?

 

[Berniece]

I still don't understand the complaints.
Why stage 21 can't be competitive?

Montmartre hoort volgens Richard Plugge niet in de Tour: “Maar we gaan er wel chaos maken”

De slotrit van de komende Tour de France is veel besproken. Organisator ASO heeft namelijk drie keer de beklimming van Montmartre toegevoegd, na het spektakelstuk op de Olympische Spelen van vorig jaar. In de speciale aflevering van de WielerFlits Podcast rondom de RIDE Launch, spreekt Visma |...

www.wielerflits.nl

He literally says why. Which comments do you disagree with?