Tour de France Tour de France 2025 Stage 11: Toulouse – Toulouse (156.8k)

[Ulfhednar]

In reality is was just a racing thing. Pog was momentarily paying attention to something else, when there was a dramatic move right. The UnoX guy just reacted to what was happening...If I'm laying honest blame, there isn't really any blame. Just an unfortunate accident.

Damn man, why didn't you just say that at first...LOL!

 

[Jumbo Visma Fan :)]

Jorgenson basically saying that Pogacar should from now on keep his mouth shut about unsportsmanlike behavior.

Rightfully so

 

[KoopaCycling]

OMG that Pog crash on TV looks worse than Almeida crash even if the reaction is different.

Rly? I think it was Almeida or the guy closest to him whose wheel popped. Did you see all those bikes in each other. Also they hit the pavement hard. Meanwhile Pogacar slided. The hit on his arm to stop the slide seemed the hardest.

This is me not downplaying today's crash. It just weird how people are looking at Almeida crash and think this looked similar. The moment that almeida crash happened, everyone knew this was gonna end bad.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Schmid made a tactical error in the last km. He needed to gamble more and get off the front because he was riding into a headwind.

possible, put the pressure was on. Pity there could only be one winner today. Schmid was excellent.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Talking about a potentially injured rider seems like front running behaviour.

You are not allowed to talk about injured riders?

 

[markene2]

Or maybe he wants to win on his own merit...

Its on merit if he avoids crashes? its all part of racing.

What if pogacar crashed on the downhill while jonas and jumbo where pushing? should he stop then? he would have caused pog to make an error, i dont think its cause to stop at all

 

[Rackham]

Jorgenson basically saying that Pogacar should from now on keep his mouth shut about unsportsmanlike behavior.

The Tour has finally landed, i.e. this stage had everything. Pace, heat, entertainment and drama at the end. People are losing their minds as well.

 

[Cycling111]

It seems that VDP had a problem with the radio and when he attacked he didn't know there were two other riders ahead of him. OMG

 

[Valv.Piti]

1. There were no gaps
2. They were not racing for the win
3. Pogacar is essentially in the lead

Laugable to suggest they just race on for literally no benefit outside of gaining 10-20 seconds on Pog. Nothing was at stake.

 

[bah]

Unless is Remco. Any crash/jacket is an excuse for him to not win a race.

You spend so much time in the Remco thread insisting you don't dislike him and your hero crashes and here you are berating Remco when he had nothing to do with it.

 

[search]

Skjelmose done?

he more or less already announced it before the stage. On from tomorrow, he'll go for polka dots.

 

[ChewbaccaDefense]

Damn man, why didn't you just say that at first...LOL!

I'm trying to be the El Patron of the forum, and failing miserably...but you gotta Try, right? I' a VIsma fan. That's how they ride, and that's how I post.

 

[Peyroteo94]

In reality is was just a racing thing. Pog was momentarily paying attention to something else, when there was a dramatic move right. The UnoX guy just reacted to what was happening...If I'm laying honest blame, there isn't really any blame. Just an unfortunate accident.

First it was Pogi's fault, now no one has any fault. Ahahah, easy to know who was responsible for that crash.

 

[Brullnux]

He took a turn when being side by side with Pog. I don’t think it was physically possible to avoid the crash for Pog once THJ started his turn. No braking or turning from Pog’s end could change the outcome.

So it can’t be anything but 100% THJ’s fault.

I think it could've, you can see from behind that Pogacar made a couple of small moves to the left. Without those he would've had some more space to brake. That and following the race direction to the right (he was on the radio at the time, so didn't have much control of the bike). Little doubt in my mind that if he hadn't been on the radio he'd have drifted to the right to follow the move.

But also there was very little room for error bc of how THJ made that move, as is obvious from above. Unlucky racing incident.

 

[Flamin]

Why should they wait for Pogacar then. He's not in the yellow jersey.

Like seriously if we still want to pretend there's actually a competition going on you shouldn't normalize this stuff.

You're kidding, right?

P.S.: I don't think they were morally obliged to wait, but yes, it was the most reasonable thing to do. It really is about circumstances. If there still was a stage win up for grabs, and potential gaps could have been made, I'm quite sure we would have seen a different approach from Vingo and Remco. But now? Stage win gone, flat finish... No point in continuing to push.

 

[Forever The Best]

You are not allowed to talk about injured riders?

I think he may have a point but not sure if it is the time (maybe tomorrow he will have injuries and drop 5-10 minutes which will make the waiting thing pointless) and mainly I'm pissed about injuries potentially affecting the race.

 

[bah]

No one would have waited for Rog. We all know it.

100%. or Remco or pretty much anyone else either.

 

[theyoungest]

Talking about a potentially injured rider seems like front running behaviour.

What? It's already been confirmed Pogi is not injured. Also, he was asked about it and he answered quite respectfully (much more respectfully than Pogi has ever been to him).

 

[Peyroteo94]

Jorgenson basically saying that Pogacar should from now on keep his mouth shut about unsportsmanlike behavior.

After having a terrible behaviour. What a loser. Typical behaviour.

 

[Miha81]

Its on merit if he avoids crashes? its all part of racing

They also knew that peloton was not going anywhere today. So they decided to wait. End of the world it seems.

 

[noob]

Rly? I think it was Almeida or the guy closest to him whose wheel popped. Did you see all those bikes in each other. Also they hit the pavement hard. Meanwhile Pogacar slided. The hit on his arm to stop the slide seemed the hardest.

This is me not downplaying today's crash. It just weird how people are looking at Almeida crash and think this looked similar. The moment that almeida crash happened, everyone knew this was gonna end bad.

I'm not saying it is a worse crash, just that it looks worse on camera the way he slid into pavement.

 

[TrekCyclist]

in this very situation i liked the waiting because
1. nobody was going to win or loose anything from the waiting
2. it was not clear immediately for the riders whose fault it was [and to some it still is not, as it seems]

 

[Cycling111]

If you behave in a sporting manner, then you don't go out and criticize it like Jorgenson does. For that, don't wait and let the road decide everything.

But waiting and then saying that doesn't make sense.

 

[kingjr]

If you behave in a sporting manner, then you don't go out and criticize it like Jorgenson does. For that, don't wait and let the road decide everything.

But waiting and then saying that doesn't make sense.

I bet he's still feeling awkward about that interview from a few days ago

 

[gunara]

Let alone something as crucial as the chaingate, people remember every pacing up when someone's down for a long time, and always more negative than positive. Some teams/riders might not take it too lightly, maybe not worth the aftermath noise on this circumstance