Tour de France Tour de France 2025 Stage 11: Toulouse – Toulouse (156.8k)

[QueenStagiaire]

Innerring blog gives it ...

and I've seen one forecast of gusts up to 30km/h, so we'll see who's correct!

According to my googling skills the Tramontane wind is actually at the Mediterranean coast and not in Toulouse.

 

[slim charles]

According to my googling skills the Tramontane wind is actually at the Mediterranean coast and not in Toulouse.

I'm far from expert, but from what I know, tramontana does, indeed, occur in more continental parts.

Also, Toulouse is generally supposed to be a rather windy city, I believe.

That said, my weather forecast shows very calm day in terms of wind there..

 

[Brullnux]

I wouldn't be surprised if Lidl try to control this. This will probably end up being too hard for Milan but given the paucity of sprint stages from here on in, it's worth having a go.

I suppose for them they also have Skujins and Simmons who would stand a chance in the break, though big Tour breakaways on hilly stages are incredibly tricky to predict/control and their chances depend massively on who else is there.

Soudal won't help, but Alpecin and Wanty could fancy the stage (and Wanty really need it for UCI points, too).

 

[QueenStagiaire]

I'm far from expert, but from what I know, tramontana does, indeed, occur in more continental parts.

Also, Toulouse is generally supposed to be a rather windy city, I believe.

That said, my weather forecast shows very calm day in terms of wind there..

It is kind of impossible for any transmontane-named wind to blow into Toulouse from the Northwest due to a lack of mountains.

 

[Earns1985]

I wouldn't be surprised if Lidl try to control this. This will probably end up being too hard for Milan but given the paucity of sprint stages from here on in, it's worth having a go.

I suppose for them they also have Skujins and Simmons who would stand a chance in the break, though big Tour breakaways on hilly stages are incredibly tricky to predict/control and their chances depend massively on who else is there.

Soudal won't help, but Alpecin and Wanty could fancy the stage (and Wanty really need it for UCI points, too).

On paper this also looks like a perfect stage for Nys. Don´t know, if his form improved..

 

[Rou]

How hard is the last hill?
The TDF site has it at 800 m at more than 12%.
PCS has it at 800 m at 9.3%.
Massive difference.
So which one is it?

 

[QueenStagiaire]

How hard is the last hill?
The TDF site has it at 800 m at more than 12%.
PCS has it at 800 m at 9.3%.
Massive difference.
So which one is it?

The profile in the opening post of this thread has it at just under 11 %, which I think is a good middle ground.

 

[Netserk]

Maybe the sight of riders holding champagne glasses is deeply offensive to some viewers.

Yes.

I'll gladly compromise. We can have the flat circuit last in exchange for a hilly start to the stage which would get raced.

 

[Valv.Piti]

Excessive number of punchy finales this year because Gouvenou hasn't realized Alaphilippe is completely à côté de la plaque aka not at the races.

Its much better than the alternative, and I highly doubt Gouvenou has had dreams of Alaf pulling off some magic in these stages. Its mainly just a response to the monotomy of flat stages, and he has achived that to be fair. I'd also argue its much more for the strongmen than pure puncheurs at least if the break will decide the race given it will be a hard stage to hit the break and their are various places to put in an attack from afar

 

[search]

Bini just said that it's too hard for him, and that he expects the breakaway to go to the end.

 

[kingjr]

My god, Bardet looks skeletal

 

[search]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1945434598868951221

View: https://x.com/EFprocycling/status/1945434598868951221

 

[Unterlenkerfahrend]

I think it'll solely depend on what Alpecin want to do. If the get Mvdp in the break, the break will win it, if they think he'll get worked over they might actually pull and let him + the GC guys battle it out.
I don't think UAE or anyone else will control the break. UAE will want to save their guys before an important stage tomorrow and no other team should really fancy their chances enough to pull the whole day. I mean, Milan, really?

Edit: okay, I might've overlooked the possibility of Vaughters wanting to "honour" the jersey, that could actually happen.

 

[search]

no other team should really fancy their chances enough to pull the whole day. I mean, Milan, really?

Skjelmose said that everyone from Trek but him and Theuns will attack, so that normally should include Milan.

For Milan it would mainly be about the intermediate sprint though, I guess.

 

[Lequack]

I don't like that all the sprint stages are crammed together at the start and all the mountain stages at the end. What happened to making a sensible route?

 

[Tim Cahill]

The Dutch Southgate aka Ronald Koeman has been there to give Visma a pep-talk, fresh off their thrashing of the mighty Malta.

 

[Red Rick]

The Dutch Southgate aka Ronald Koeman has been there to give Visma a pep-talk, fresh off their thrashing of the mighty Malta.

"How to beat UAE? Simple, you start with Memphis Depay"

 

[Kangaridoo]

I don't like that all the sprint stages are crammed together at the start and all the mountain stages at the end. What happened to making a sensible route?

Agree - awful route this year.

 

[Lequack]

 

[Kangaridoo]

What's up with the hour long depart fictif?

 

[Tim Cahill]

Johnny going up the road for the intermediate

 

[Valv.Piti]

Lets "honour" the jersey by blocking off riders wanting to race

 

[Tim Cahill]

Wtf are EF doing, get a rider in there, can't even see Healy at the front

 

[Netserk]

Milan riding like a fish out of water. No breakaway skills.

 

[Red Rick]

Milan riding like a fish out of water. No breakaway skills.

Milan's plan in small groups has tradionally just been to hold on for dear life to Filippo Ganna.