Tour de France Tour de France 2025 Stage 12: Auch - Hautacam (180.6k)

[ChewbaccaDefense]

The thing is, that when Visma was pulling, they eased off and didn't make time on the front, and now UAE is pulling and not making time on the Amirail either.

 

[kingjr]

2003 - what a tour!

4 Pog domestiques in today's world.

Look at those leg muscles on Jan, lol

 

[noob]

Every time i'm in here during a race, it's full of people throwing out assertive comments about the outcome half way through, just for the chance to be able to say "told you so" in the random instances where their predictions hold true

Some of us just being too excitedly verbose

 

[Valv.Piti]

Zubeldia was such a strange rider, lol. I think he did drop Lance that day as well. Sastre was ahead with his baby's pacifier though

2003 was by far his highest level in general, and yes you are correct, he dropped Armstrong with a few km to go briefly. Zubeldia was one fire that Tour and actually finished just above his more talented teammate and mythical climber Mayo who never came close to that level either. Actually miles off every other time he did the Tour apart from that one stage to Tignes in 2007 that Rasmussen won.

 

[Boehmand]

Now you wonder if letting van Aert riding for his own chances is smart. He went all in yesterday and couldn't do any important work today.

A fresh van Aert could have been in the break and helping out on Soulor or thereafter.

It's the trade off you have to make, when you are not the richest team.

If WvA was to ride just as a dom, he could do that for significant more money elsewhere.

 

[Lorzenz08]

Its coming 🙏

 

[KoopaCycling]

After already getting dropped , i'd be surprised if he ain't gonna be in trouble real quick at Hautacam.
But props to remco resilience so far. hope he continues to fight till the very end of the stage.

 

[Heston]

The thing is, that when Visma was pulling, they eased off and didn't make time on the front, and now UAE is pulling and not making time on the Amirail either.

Well Armirail is absolutely sending it, and he just got 4th on the TT. This is a great stretch for Armirail.

GC group is gaining on the Skjelmose group.

 

[houtdffan]

The amount of effort this took... Still expect him to be dropped hard again

He MIGHT be better than some of the other leaders who gave it their all to hang on like a leach

 

[Tricycle Rider]

I'll join in and mention that I am too. As I inevitably do.

Tbh its a little embarrassing to hear it over and over.

Simmons is from Durango also, isn't he? I don't know why Bob Roll never fails to mention Kuss is from there but I haven't heard him say Quinn Simmons is from Durango, CO...

 

[No Excuses]

Narvaez to blow them out

 

[red_flanders]

So what was up with Remco? Dumoulin sitation?

 

[Boehmand]

Its coming 🙏

You DO realise you defeat the purpose of stealth, if you tell us it's coming - right?

 

[Brullnux]

They did the right thing. Pogacar might be hurt.

Cycling is a sport that depends massively on how riders feel in that moment. Even if the plan looked good on paper (which it did), if two of your main domestiques (and second-in-command) feel bad in that moment then it's still a bad plan and naive to keep going ahead with it, instead of moving to Plan B/C.

 

[Squire]

Very true.

Zubeldia never really ever found his 2003 TdF climbing legs again. He was good but never elite.

Neither did Mayo (in a GT). The whole team might have been spooked by that post-2004-Dauphiné phone call.

 

[AlpRaid]

peacock sucks so bad.

it took them 10 minutes before they were TOLD remco had made it back.

and they didn't know S. Yates had come with him.

 

[Andre]

Ive never seen Wellens ride this strong...what has gotten into him?

 

[Tim Cahill]

The way this is going Armirail is going to get caught on the climb when it's only 1 or 2 people left like Kwiatkowski

 

[Zoetemelk-fan]

Just bumped in.
Seems like something has happened.

 

[ontheroad]

No doubt Remco will be in limit loss territory on Hautacam but mentally he must feel a lot better now than he did an hour ago. In years gone by he might have dialled it in earlier today.

 

[dobrien]

After already getting dropped , i'd be surprised if he ain't gonna be in trouble real quick at Hautacam.
But props to remco resilience so far. hope he continues to fight till the very end of the stage.

I'm hoping it was just a bad patch and that he's feeling better now; it's a long shot, I know We'll see soon enough, but good show of character nonetheless. I'm sure its hard not to feel like folding up the tent with that happening right away.

 

[burning]

2003 was by far his highest level in general, and yes you are correct, he dropped Armstrong with a few km to go briefly. Zubeldia was one fire that Tour and actually finished just above his more talented teammate and mythical climber Mayo who never came close to that level either. Actually miles off every other time he did the Tour apart from that one stage to Tignes in 2007 that Rasmussen won.

I still cannot believe that Mayo only won one stage in the TDF in his entire life. His Alpe d'Huez performance was mental in that year, but he had his fair share of demons

 

[Valv.Piti]

Look at those leg muscles on Jan, lol

Cap d' Decouverte, I watched that stage recently. Best time trial I have watched!

 

[Boehmand]

Amarail has maintained his gap to the favourites - even added a few seconds to it.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Cycling is a sport that depends massively on how riders feel in that moment. Even if the plan looked good on paper (which it did), if two of your main domestiques (and second-in-command) feel bad in that moment then it's still a bad plan and naive to keep going ahead with it, instead of moving to Plan B/C.

But your leader is probably good so right strategy IMHO.