Tour de France Tour de France 2025 Stage 13: Loudenvielle – Peyragudes (10.9k, ITT)

[Red Rick]

Man where are the days of 2022 and 2023.

Maybe this video can help you with that

 

[Krzysztof_O]

I didn't expect this before but the TT looks way less anticipated right now. Pogacar is already destroying the competition in the GC. It seems the race for victory is over (barring some disaster).

 

[Ulle97]

Is there any chance that Remco could win this?

 

[solo80k]

Is there any chance that Remco could win this?

Yes, it's a false flat, sprinter-friendly ITT. Check official profile.

 

[Andre]

Maybe this video can help you with that

interesting video...I wish I could have grasped the part about entropy in the universal cube

 

[Andre]

Is there any chance that Remco could win this?

yes

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Is there any chance that Remco could win this?

He should be ahead of Pogacar with just 8 km to go. Probably will defend himself well on the last, short section but Pogi has a small chance too.

 

[broppo]

Is there any chance that Remco could win this?

The bookies give Remco a payout of x34 to win tomorrow's stage. Lipowitz is x17 and Pogacar x1.16

 

[Red Rick]

The bookies give Remco a payout of x34 to win tomorrow's stage. Lipowitz is x17 and Pogacar x1.16

Holy *** I can win 0.16 kidney tomorrow.

Spoiler

My black market dealer doesn't accept me betting 2 they don't wanna be on the hook for homocide

 

[Sciatic]

I didn't expect this before but the TT looks way less anticipated right now. Pogacar is already destroying the competition in the GC. It seems the race for victory is over (barring some disaster).

At least now there might be a closer battle for 2nd & 3rd.

 

[fenns]

Is there any chance that Remco could win this?

3% according to the bookmakers

Pog is 85%

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

This reminds me of the 2001 Tour, with the Alpe d'Huez stage followed by the mountain TT up to Chamonix (I believe, might be misremembering).

 

[Rackham]

This reminds me of the 2001 Tour, with the Alpe d'Huez stage followed by the mountain TT up to Chamonix (I believe, might be misremembering).

Which means Vinge will ship another minute tomorrow if it follows the same logic (Ullrich lost nearly 2 minutes versus Lance on Alpe that year the day before the mountain ITT).

 

[nightowl]

This reminds me of the 2001 Tour, with the Alpe d'Huez stage followed by the mountain TT up to Chamonix (I believe, might be misremembering).

Chamrousse is what you’re thinking of! And yes it does feel similar (and like we can expect a similar outcome…)

 

[nightowl]

Now that GC is wrapped up barring incident, I’m quite looking forward to the podium/white jersey battle over the next mountain stages. That should make compelling watching with 4 or 5 riders all attacking each other.

 

[ontheroad]

It's basically a glorified uphill prologue. Gaps will be minimal and whilst every stage has a certain merit, I don't really see the appeal in this one stuck in the middle of the race.

If anyone not called Pogacar wins this then I will be shocked.

 

[Gratemans]

Ofc if youre only watching to see who wins, you can prolly skip. But there are so many other interesting riders and storylines to follow. Obiviously you'd much rather watch a stage like this than stage 3 this year

You're right, it's just that I expect the cameras to remain largely on Pog and Jonas. And random French dudes of course.
I'm afraid they're not gonna show us much of those other interesting riders and storylines 🙁

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

Which means Vinge will ship another minute tomorrow if it follows the same logic (Ullrich lost nearly 2 minutes versus Lance on Alpe that year the day before the mountain ITT).

Yeah, that was my thinking except, no way Vinge ships a minute, I think Chamrousse was longer, wasn't it?

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

Chamrousse is what you’re thinking of! And yes it does feel similar (and like we can expect a similar outcome…)

Yes, that's it! Thanks!

 

[houtdffan]

Yeah, that was my thinking except, no way Vinge ships a minute, I think Chamrousse was longer, wasn't it?

Chamrousse was a 32km MTT

14km of flat, 18km climb

 

[Gratemans]

Maybe this video can help you with that

PBS SpaceTime! I friggin love that channel!

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Which means Vinge will ship another minute tomorrow if it follows the same logic (Ullrich lost nearly 2 minutes versus Lance on Alpe that year the day before the mountain ITT).

It definitely looks like Pogi can distance the second guy by a minute at least (again I didn't expect such a gap before but today changed everything). If Vingo gets better tomorrow maybe he can limit his losses to 40 seconds or so or...maybe not.

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

Hold up, this is like an 11km TT? Seriously, they're doing a prologue in the middle of the Tour, wtf?

 

[Brullnux]

I think the best comparison is the Alpe di Siusi MTT in 2016 - 10.8km v 10.9km; 2.5km flat v 2.9km flat; 8.3km at 8% v 8km at 7.9%. It's almost identical, and that one also came after an excellent and hard Dolomite stage.

We had OK gaps there, about a minute separating the top ten, and 2:10 to Nibali. Expecting something similar, though extended ofc because of the Pog effect and also the slightly weak depth of the field here (especially considering many of the better second tier climbers ride for UAE or Visma).

 

[Devil's Elbow]

I think the best comparison is the Alpe di Siusi MTT in 2016 - 10.8km v 10.9km; 2.5km flat v 2.9km flat; 8.3km at 8% v 8km at 7.9%. It's almost identical, and that one also came after an excellent and hard Dolomite stage.

We had OK gaps there, about a minute separating the top ten, and 2:10 to Nibali. Expecting something similar, though extended ofc because of the Pog effect and also the slightly weak depth of the field here (especially considering many of the better second tier climbers ride for UAE or Visma).

Are you sure your numbers are correct? As per PCS we have 602 metres of net elevation gain tomorrow compared to 777 metres tomorrow.