Tour de France Tour de France 2025 Stage 13: Loudenvielle – Peyragudes (10.9k, ITT)

[kingjr]

Hold up, this is like an 11km TT? Seriously, they're doing a prologue in the middle of the Tour, wtf?

The number of minutes is more important than the number of kms

 

[Devil's Elbow]

The number of minutes is more important than the number of kms

Approximately 24 minutes for the winner is still incredibly short for a mid-race TT. That's only a quarter above the 2009 opening TT, and even less than that above the 2005 one.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Approximately 24 minutes for the winner is still incredibly short for a mid-race TT.

Yeah, this climb is really too easy for a MTT but thanks to it maybe Teddy won't crush the competition and the gap will be moderate (read: under a minute). Mt Ventoux time trial would be epic.

 

[kingjr]

Approximately 24 minutes for the winner is still incredibly short for a mid-race TT.

I hear you, if it were for me, all TTs would be between 60 and 90 minutes long - aside from actual Prologues x)

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Yeah, this climb is really too easy for a MTT but thanks to it maybe Teddy won't crush the competition and the gap will be moderate (read: under a minute). Mt Ventoux time trial would be epic.

You can make it work, but not with a start in Loudenvielle. Obviously it's immaterial with the GC the way it is, but imagine if they had looked at the 1989 Orcières-Merlette MTT (which also climbed Manse) for inspiration, started in Saint-Lary-Soulan and climbed the hard side of Col d'Azet first.

 

[Red Rick]

TT like this would be cool for the first week. I'd prefer it in the Giro to something like Monte San Bagio which is just ludicrously scenic.

 

[Brullnux]

Are you sure your numbers are correct? As per PCS we have 602 metres of net elevation gain tomorrow compared to 777 metres tomorrow.

I meant 9km at (slightly above) 8%, apologies, and it was just under 2km of flat. Still, very similar.

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

I think TTs should be at least as long as a cross race, i.e., about 60 minutes.

 

[Forever The Best]

Do we really need this stage?

 

[CyclistAbi]

Should be an interesting battle for some prestige. Daily form will likely be a factor, as for the motivation, i am afraid that from GC point of view that won't play a big role. So maybe from stage win perspective the motivation to be high, for some GC contenders.

 

[No Excuses]

Pog by 30s.
Vinge will better riding his own rhythm all the way. Lipo probably 3rd.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Pogi under 18'20" in the climb

 

[peterfin]

Pogi will be the obvious winner pushing 0.5 w/kg more than the second but I can see Remco and Lipo beating Vingegaard.

 

[CyclistAbi]

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[Tonton]

Meh, meh,meh...why not this stage?

There's nowhere to hide, no wheel to take...me, I like it. I call it "the thermometer", and the top-20 will be reshaped. Dreams of greatness coming down in flames. I like it...

It's a big deal, power outputs will blow our minds, be studied in other sections of our forum. Gaps won't be huge, but they will exist, nowhere to hide. I like it...

In the end, it's a chrono, I will sheer for Remco, I'll never bet against Remco in a chrono. Two walls, the rest can be managed, he will put out an insane rhythm. Allez Remco! I like it too...

 

[CyclistAbi]

On a flat ITT one could say Remco is the favourite for the stage, as for this stage, IMHO no.

 

[dazaau]

Day two of crash for Pog, taking more edge off - Another rubbish sleep, they add up. Jonas is at his worst climbing level in years and after a shocking flat TT I don't think this stage will go well for him.

Pog still to win, but not crazy, and who will get second will be interesting.

 

[Schultz0620]

This isn't the Jonas of a couple years ago, Pogacar will bury him tomorrow.

 

[Cookster15]

After his dominance on Hautacam Pog to win of course - the only question is by how much? 10.9 km with the last 8km averaging 8%?

Interested to see how Lipowitz and Vauquelin go.

Gonna be some massive GC gaps by dinner time.

 

[Cookster15]

Yes a little anticlimactic after yesterday. But I think Pog can take easily another minute here. At an average 24km/h the climb itself would take about 20 minutes. Vingo's goal must be not to get caught.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

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[Rob5091]

If Tonton likes it, that's good enough for me!
Obviously should be longer and after yesterday an anti-climax. Vingegaard to lose more time, Lipowitz will close in on Remco and the rest will do their best, I'm sure, but ...Our only hope is that a "Foliforov" wins and we can all have a good chuckle.

 

[Miha81]

Yes, it's a false flat, sprinter-friendly ITT. Check official profile.

Streched profile actually looks like false flat with slight uphill. Until you start looking at the gradiens

 

[Rackham]

Day two of crash for Pog, taking more edge off - Another rubbish sleep, they add up. Jonas is at his worst climbing level in years and after a shocking flat TT I don't think this stage will go well for him.

Pog still to win, but not crazy, and who will get second will be interesting.

I think two factors might have reduced the impact of that crash: Pog sticking his left foot out to soften the fall and mainly landing on the painted strip on the road. That reduced the burn on his skin.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

You can make it work, but not with a start in Loudenvielle. Obviously it's immaterial with the GC the way it is, but imagine if they had looked at the 1989 Orcières-Merlette MTT (which also climbed Manse) for inspiration, started in Saint-Lary-Soulan and climbed the hard side of Col d'Azet first.

Then TT up the huge Col de Portet: hardest Pyrenean climb in Tour history. It's nearby (and the finish was there already so it's feasible). Start in Saint Lary Soulan or one can even start in Loudenvielle (24 km false flat + 16 km climb) - a mighty TT! I wouldn't mind if the 3rd Pyrenean stage was removed from the route then.