Tour de France Tour de France 2025 Stage 13: Loudenvielle – Peyragudes (10.9k, ITT)

[Krzysztof_O]

Yes a little anticlimactic after yesterday. But I think Pog can take easily another minute here. At an average 24km/h the climb itself would take about 20 minutes. Vingo's goal must be not to get caught.

In theory gaps in this TT should be moderate (short climb, fresh effort) but after yesterday it seems Pog has a big advantage (and can take 1 minute as you say). I can imagine that Vingo can limit his loss to 30-40 seconds if he's better than yesterday.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Yes a little anticlimactic after yesterday. But I think Pog can take easily another minute here. At an average 24km/h the climb itself would take about 20 minutes. Vingo's goal must be not to get caught.

The climbing record (2022 by both Pogacar and Vingo) on Peyragudes is 19'50". I think Pogacar can go 1'20" faster.

 

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The climbing record (2022 by both Pogacar and Vingo) on Peyragudes is 19'50". I think Pogacar can go 1'20" faster.

I do think the riders might be dead from yesterday. And still think the crash affected him yesterday and day 2 is always the worst after a crash. I expect Pogacar to win today, but don’t think we’ll see the best Pogacar before week 3

 

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Dumoulin thinks that Vingegaard will take the TT bike today. Evenepoel yesterday said he didn't know yet. Nothing from Pogacar, I think. Does Colnago still have that weight disadvantage?

 

[KZD]

Pogacar
Vingegaard + 1min
Remco + 1:40min
Lipowitz +1 :50min
Roglic +2:00min

I would like to see Pogacar use the Colnago V5RS with TT bars

 

[Peyroteo94]

I do think the riders might be dead from yesterday. And still think the crash affected him yesterday and day 2 is always the worst after a crash. I expect Pogacar to win today, but don’t think we’ll see the best Pogacar before week 3

It's a 23'-24' effort. Fatigue won't be a factor for Pogacar at least.

 

[Red Rick]

In theory gaps in this TT should be moderate (short climb, fresh effort) but after yesterday it seems Pog has a big advantage (and can take 1 minute as you say). I can imagine that Vingo can limit his loss to 30-40 seconds if he's better than yesterday.

Fatigue played a big role in the size of the gaps, and blowing up spectacularly for some because they did the climb way too aggressively.

Gaps should really be less than halve of what they were yesterday.

 

[Rechtschreibfehler]

Big gaps would be surprising, given how short the overall effort is. But looking at yesterdays gaps, fatigue might play a bigger role than I thought before the Tour. Still, it's only an 8k climb and not a very steep one at that (bar some parts).

1. Pogacar
2. Lipowitz
3. Vingegaard
4. Evenepoel

Says my gut. All within 1:20.

 

[Jan the Man]

Pog the obvious overwhelming favourite but because of length of effort and fact everyone will pace themselves i think i would be surprised if he put much more than 30s into Vignegaard. Remco should be good at this effort- if he fails to gain time on Lipowitz its an indication that yesterday was not a one off particularly bad day and will mean the battle for the podium will be tough

 

[Miha81]

Pogacar
Vingegaard + 1min
Remco + 1:40min
Lipowitz +1 :50min
Roglic +2:00min

I would like to see Pogacar use the Colnago V5RS with TT bars

On TT of less than 25min? Don't you think crash and yesterday's effort could affect him?

 

[IndurainsTdF1994]

Roglic has been keeping his powder dry. Today, this changes.
Though it may still be too early to reveal the cards...

 

[Unterlenkerfahrend]

I'm surprisingly thrilled about this stage today. Don't know if it's because we haven't had a proper MTT in a looong time in the Tour, if it's because the "normal" mountain stages with Pogacar have been boring as hell for a while, so any change is welcome or if it's because this year the battle for 3rd at least looks promising right now.

I'm expecting similar results to the last one 2004 actually.
The cannibal with at least a minute to the second best who'll ride on his TT bike. The rest to follow in clos-ish proximity.
It's become evident that Pogacar is clearly just pushing way more watts than Vingegaard and that won't suddenly change over night. I still expect Vingegaard to do better compared to the rest than yesterday.

 

[Mayomaniac]

Gall to finish top 5, at least.

 

[ppanther92]

Gall to finish top 5, at least.

I hope, he needs to show that sort of climbing levels if he wants to improve vs 2023 soon.

Do you know if he still has a cold or fully fit again?

 

[Hugo Koblet]

This should be a good stage for Vingegaard, relatively. He's very explosive but gets worse the harder the race gets.

 

[RedheadDane]

Just a nice gentle slope.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Pocagar to go so fast that he actually takes off on the runway and flies away. His fanboys will start enthusiastically claiming he's the GOAT of light aircraft.

The rest of the racing between the other riders to be somewhat interesting, although I'm starting to miss small Spanish races again

 

[Mayomaniac]

I hope, he needs to show that sort of climbing levels if he wants to improve vs 2023 soon.

Do you know if he still has a cold or fully fit again?

His cold is getting better, struggled a bit with the heat yesterday, but overall happy. Looking at his TdS MTT result he should do well, he put almost 50sec into Onley and 1:16 into Vauquelin.

 

[ppanther92]

His cold is getting better, struggled a bit with the heat yesterday, but overall happy. Looking at his TdS MTT result he should do well, he put almost 50sec into Onley and 1:16 into Vauquelin.

Thats said, also didn’t expect him yesterday to lose a minute on Onley and Vauquelin

 

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His cold is getting better, struggled a bit with the heat yesterday, but overall happy. Looking at his TdS MTT result he should do well, he put almost 50sec into Onley and 1:16 into Vauquelin.

that one was quite a bit steeper, though. Not sure a (mainly) 7-8% climb like today suits him as well, where it's more about generating power when seated.

 

[Rule #9 apostle]

This should be a good stage for Vingegaard, relatively. He's very explosive but gets worse the harder the race gets.

How the turntables...

 

[Krzysztof_O]

This should be a good stage for Vingegaard, relatively. He's very explosive but gets worse the harder the race gets.

Vingegaard is a specialist in 1-5 minutes climbs so this is above his striking zone. However, if he imagines it as 5 consecutive Bretagne hills he should be fine.

 

[Rule #9 apostle]

What bikes are they riding though? Is JV on the TT bike? If so I'll give him 10 sec to the bottom of the climb, Pog to take 5 seconds per kilometre up, to put him 30 secs ahead at the finish. Remco, Roglic and Lipo all within one minute down.

I hope

 

[Rackham]

Vingegaard is a specialist in 1-5 minutes climbs so this is above his striking zone. However, if he imagines it as 5 consecutive Bretagne hills he should be fine.

Someone should tell Dylan Groenewegen to imagine it's a series of consecutive speed bumps and he might just nab a stage win today.

 

[Tim Cahill]

Reaching that 'when does the Women's one/Vuelta start?' stage of the race a bit earlier this year unfortunately, not exactly been a vintage edition so far.

Battle for minor placings looks like it could be interesting though, I'm still not counting out a Remco/Vingegaard full crack. though the former showed a lot of heart yesterday.