Tour de France Tour de France 2025 Stage 14: Pau – Luchon Superbagnères (182.6k)

[Krzysztof_O]

I don't know if you are asking to much. They'll want to win a stage with Vingegaard I guess, and the best way to achieve that against Pog is to get a big enough gap before the final climb. Also: what else are they going to do? Will it work at all? Probably not, because Pog won't let him go.

Pogacar will never let Vingo go (even if only for a stage win). Unless he's like 10 minutes ahead. I meant long distance attack hoping Pogi actually can't respond and distancing him further with the help of a teammate. It's very unlikely to succeed (given Pog strength) but it's the only slim chance Vingo has. I am wondering if Visma will try it at least once.

 

[Rechtschreibfehler]

Pogacar will never let Vingo go (even if only for a stage win). Unless he's like 10 minutes ahead. I meant long distance attack hoping Pogi actually can't respond and distancing him further with the help of a teammate. It's very unlikely to succeed (given Pog strength) but it's the only slim chance Vingo has. I am wondering if Visma will try it at least once.

Yes I did understand, I guess I automatically thought "well, only works if he let's him go" because I don't think he can distance him. They'd have to hope for a lesser day by Pogi, the only way to find that out is to make the race hard though and try, so I think they'll do it.

 

[Red Rick]

There is one viable strategy. Get the right man in the breakaway. And that man is Jonas Vingegaard.

Otherwise, get Kuss/Jorgenson/Yates in there and try to win the stage.

 

[E_F_]

*deep gravelly voice*

"I activate my trap card. The Pog of Greed"

Is it called a Spell Card because they spelled its name wrong?

 

[Krzysztof_O]

There is one viable strategy. Get the right man in the breakaway. And that man is Jonas Vingegaard.

Otherwise, get Kuss/Jorgenson/Yates in there and try to win the stage.

So you mean Pantani on Galibier like attack. All or nothing long distance ride. Hoping for big gains if Pogacar is on a lesser day. I would like to see that.

 

[Red Rick]

So you mean Pantani on Galibier like attack. All or nothing long distance ride. Hoping for big gains if Pogacar is on a lesser day.

No I mean joing a 50 man breakaway like Carlos Rodriguez because more than ever before Pogacar is asleep at the wheel in the first hour.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Vingo is more upbeat after today:

'The Tour is far from over' - Jonas Vingegaard back in the fray after second place in Tour de France stage 13 time trial

Dane says 'not at normal level' when he suffered Hautacam defeat

www.cyclingnews.com

I guess we can count on Visma trying (maybe also crazy things).

 

[Didinho]

Team Soler to George Hingapie this one.

 

[Rechtschreibfehler]

Team Soler to George Hingapie this one.

Who's Oscar Pereiro then?

 

[Red Rick]

Vingo is more upbeat after today:

'The Tour is far from over' - Jonas Vingegaard back in the fray after second place in Tour de France stage 13 time trial

Dane says 'not at normal level' when he suffered Hautacam defeat

www.cyclingnews.com

I guess we can count on Visma trying (maybe also crazy things).

He is technically correct. There is 8 more stages to go, more wins to be farmed. More 2nd places to catch.

 

[fenns]

Jonas needs to do a Floyd Landis

 

[Peyroteo94]

Vingo is more upbeat after today:

'The Tour is far from over' - Jonas Vingegaard back in the fray after second place in Tour de France stage 13 time trial

Dane says 'not at normal level' when he suffered Hautacam defeat

www.cyclingnews.com

I guess we can count on Visma trying (maybe also crazy things).

This can go really wrong to Teddy or really good and he finishes this Tour with 8 stage wins.

 

[fenns]

early start 12.15

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Given stage 15, we might see Lidl, Alpecin and Intermache being able to keep things together for the intermediate sprint on this stage. After that we need some bravery from the upper echelons of the GC, hopefully including both Visma and Bora.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Apparently Coquard is out.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Ouch, a brutal stage specially on rainy weather. The Hulk will kill them all again. Remco to do a LBL 2025.

 

[Salvarani]

Apparently Coquard is out.

Has operation for his broken finger tomorrow

Wanted to ride today anyway

 

[Faserr]

Has operation for his broken finger tomorrow

Wanted to ride today anyway

Where did he crash? That crash sprint stage?

 

[Salvarani]

Where did he crash? That crash sprint stage?

Yesterday

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Where did he crash? That crash sprint stage?

He broke the finger when grabbing the musette in the feed zone. No crash involved.

 

[houtdffan]

If Vingo wants to win, he needs to risk blowing up more than Remco

Full attack from the base of the Tourmalet

 

[No Excuses]

If visma is still riding for the win they need to try something tomorrow and probably a differenct approach. Since Ventoux will suit UAE it's mainly tomorrow and loze. Put jorge and 2 other guys in the break.

 

[Tricycle Rider]

Has operation for his broken finger tomorrow

Wanted to ride today anyway

Yeah, today he couldn't have really hurt anyone because not much fellow rider traffic was involved in the ITT, but his finger was heavily splinted, so braking or shifting would have been a much bigger issue on any subsequent stage.

Chapeau Coquard, he did what he could.

 

[Pozzovivo]

Put jorge and 2 other guys in the break.

Sure and then what? Launch with Benoot and Kuss with Vingegaard and Pogacar on the wheel?

 

[No Excuses]

Sure and then what? Launch with Benoot and Kuss with Vingegaard and Pogacar on the wheel?

Sepp needs to go all out and vinge attack from far away.
Putting Vinge in the break seems impossible to me.
If jorge wasn't that far behind they could maybe create a situation where UAE has to chase but that is off the table.
I think everything is better than to repeat the strategy of the hautacam stage. Otherwise settle for 2nd place.