Tour de France Tour de France 2025 Stage 7: Saint-Malo – Mûr-de-Bretagne (197.0k)

[dercuforever]

After having outsprinted him last year in Le Lioran, I'd say just holding Pogacar's wheel is going backwards

Everyone and their mothers know Lioran happened because Pogacar didnt eat/drink properly. That was him bonking.

 

[pmcg76]

It's just a stage record lol.

You can decide to not care because it favors sprinters, but denying it's validity or suggesting alternate ways of counting because you don't like the rider who has the record is just silly.

I don't like Pogacar, may I please suggest another way of determining the overall winner of f

For the record, I don't like any one dimensional sprinter for the reasons that are implicit in the stats. They do far less yet get far more opportunities than any other type of rider in cycling. I look at the effort and work that Ben Healy did yesterday to win a single stage, yet a sprinter will get 6/7/8 opportunities just sitting in the bunch. It's not the same thing at all.

For the record, riders winning 4 or more sprint stages has bern done 11 times in the 21st century by 5 different riders. Include 98/99, its goes out to 7 riders. In the same period, only one non-sprinter has won 4 stages in a single discipline, Pogacar with 4 mountain stages last year.

 

[AmRacer]

For the record, I don't like any one dimensional sprinter for the reasons that are implicit in the stats. They do far less yet get far more opportunities than any other type of rider in cycling. I look at the effort and work that Ben Healy did yesterday to win a single stage, yet a sprinter will get 6/7/8 opportunities just sitting in the bunch. It's not the same thing at all.

For the record, riders winning 4 or more sprint stages has bern done 11 times in the 21st century by 5 different riders. Include 98/99, its goes out to 7 riders. In the same period, only one non-sprinter has won 4 stages in a single discipline, Pogacar with 4 mountain stages last year.

Wouts magical 3 discipline wins

 

[pmcg76]

Wouts magical 3 discipline wins

Believe me when I say I rate that achievement by WVA higher than any numbers of wins by any sprinter. Outside of GC guys, I consider that to be the biggest achievement of the 21st century Tour history, and I ain't a WVA fan.

 

[Savant12]

Great UAE team ride [plus Remco] to give Pog the win.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Congratulations to Tadej Pogačar for winning the stage.

Was a rather nice stage, hard tempo and the GC sprint but the crash at the end ruined it.

 

[Boehmand]

Everyone and their mothers know Lioran happened because Pogacar didnt eat/drink properly. That was him bonking.

I just asked my mother...

...she didn't know.

 

[how yes no?]

I just asked my mother...

...she didn't know.

I guess this implies you are not Everyone.

 

[topt]

Are you really thinking Pogacar will win the Tour until 2028? Anything can happen, look to Froome 2017 or even Contador 2009.

more than likely, he will be ,what 30, in 2028

 

[Valv.Piti]

Good takes about sprinting which I agree with. Cav beating Merckx is a meme, its not comparable at all. Far less work, far more stage opportunities. Give me a Healy win over three Cav stages in Chateuroux or where ever he usually wins

And then ASO serve two of these on the weekend, good grief

 

[Tricycle Rider]

What's his usual sleeping pattern like? Will a screaming baby wake him up?

I'd imagine he'll probably do a fair amount of crying himself, it just looks so painful.

I don't know how they'd be able to patch him up just so he can wear some shorts, just cleaning the wound was probably hellish. Maybe he's as tough as nails and will continue riding, but if he doesn't I'd totally understand.

 

[Red Rick]

For the record, I don't like any one dimensional sprinter for the reasons that are implicit in the stats. They do far less yet get far more opportunities than any other type of rider in cycling. I look at the effort and work that Ben Healy did yesterday to win a single stage, yet a sprinter will get 6/7/8 opportunities just sitting in the bunch. It's not the same thing at all.

For the record, riders winning 4 or more sprint stages has bern done 11 times in the 21st century by 5 different riders. Include 98/99, its goes out to 7 riders. In the same period, only one non-sprinter has won 4 stages in a single discipline, Pogacar with 4 mountain stages last year.

Sprinters have other problems that limits their ability to win 30 stages, otherwise the top of that ranking would have more sprinters but it's only Cavendish. Sprinters have short primes, burn out quickly, and usually have smaller margins of dominance over the rest of the field.

And I can make a similar argument that it's nuts that there's now like 8+ uphill finishes in the Tour when there used to be far less which makes it really easy for a certain someone to rack up the win count with far less variance and uncertainty than Cavendish ever had.

To me, Cavendish breaking the record after extending his contract twice and changing teams was actually a story. For Pogacar it will be a statistic.

 

[Kwaremonster]

In the end the amount of stages in a tour, the amount of monuments, World titles or grand tour victories, its all apples and oranges. It's down to personal opinion, the very reason this forum exists. I do know I rate WvA 9 stages way more than Philipsens 10 stages though.

 

[Lequack]

Chris Horner's take

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bE0skBgZA4