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Great. I really dislike the way it always has this stupid flat section before and how it basically beocmes a queen stage despite never working well like that

But this is one is cool
Yeah, it really does make for a terrible MTF on queen stage (the normal version of course, not my solution). Perfectly encapsulated by the glorious Froome vs Pidcock battle for the ages with Pogacar and Vingegaard taking a well deserved day off after the Granon stage.
 
could always be 2015. Do the Col de ka Croix de Fer from 3 different sides
omg. Why did they feel the need to go all the way down to Saint Jean de Maurienne before the final climb? How are they this averse to long range attacks...
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there were plenty other climbs that could have been used vs Croix de Fer

easily could have done Madeliene south, Mt Cenis, Montvergine, Lauteret before ADH
The landslide was on the section of descent shared by Lautaret and Galibier, at Lac du Chambon just east of the road to Sarenne. The only way of getting to AdH that year that wasn't via CdF/Glandon would have been up the valley road out of the Grenoble area, which is way worse.

Ultimately, even with the plan A route via Galibier that was a very poorly-paced final week courtesy mostly of the insistence on having AdH as stage 20. The obvious way to go was AdH on stage 18 (preferably with a double ascent like in 2013, given that the start was in Gap which rules out all other nearby HC climbs so long as ASO are uninterested in making Solude work) and then work from there.

Or even better, AdH on stage 16 (easily doable from Bourg-de-Péage), but that requires a bigger rework.
 
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Most of those are massive detours.

The simplest way would have just been Glandon from the hard side, which is just a much better climb than the CdF from the side they took anyway
Could have done Madeleine south but only as far as the ski station. There are two south sides from La Chambre, because there's the one through Montgellafrey as well.

Sample stage:
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Of course, that side of Croix de Fer is via Glandon, they could easily have incorporated it between Chaussy and Croix de Fer in stage 19 (would have been in the reverse direction from shown on that profile) or as a pair of climbs with Glandon instead of Croix de Fer on stage 20 in order to at least try to replicate the difficulty of Télégraphe and Galibier.
 
Could have done Madeleine south but only as far as the ski station. There are two south sides from La Chambre, because there's the one through Montgellafrey as well.

Sample stage:
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Of course, that side of Croix de Fer is via Glandon, they could easily have incorporated it between Chaussy and Croix de Fer in stage 19 (would have been in the reverse direction from shown on that profile) or as a pair of climbs with Glandon instead of Croix de Fer on stage 20 in order to at least try to replicate the difficulty of Télégraphe and Galibier.
I know, but I'm basically operating on the assumption that Govenou aren't gonna add climbs outside of getting from A to B that serve the same function as the Galibier did.

Which now that I remember makes me extremely confused about the 2018 stage design when they added in 20-30 extra kms of bs to include the Lacets de Montvernier and climb the worse side of the CdF/Glandon.

But it's very telling about Alpe d'Huez that the best approach to it is probably simply to climb it twice or to climb Col de Solude on the opposite side of the valley and descend down to Ornon. Probably the only approach that leaves under 5km of flat, and Solude is a good climb, but it only really makes for a good double whammy of 30-40 minute climbs and not really queen stage material.
 
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I know, but I'm basically operating on the assumption that Govenou aren't gonna add climbs outside of getting from A to B that serve the same function as the Galibier did.

Which now that I remember makes me extremely confused about the 2018 stage design when they added in 20-30 extra kms of bs to include the Lacets de Montvernier and climb the worse side of the CdF/Glandon.

But it's very telling about Alpe d'Huez that the best approach to it is probably simply to climb it twice or to climb Col de Solude on the opposite side of the valley and descend down to Ornon. Probably the only approach that leaves under 5km of flat, and Solude is a good climb, but it only really makes for a good double whammy of 30-40 minute climbs and not really queen stage material.
In a smaller race, potentially, you could go over Galibier and do the Sarenne approach like in the 2017 Dauphiné, joining the D211 between hairpins 3 and 4, then descending as far as hairpin 6 at Huez village and descending the road through Villard-Reculas down to Allemond, and shortening the flat part in the valley down to only about 8km before climbing Alpe d'Huez from the 'normal' route - there would be a good long gap of just over 30km between the descent of that small part of road that's handled in both directions so that should be perfectly safe especially given it's several kilometres up the Alpe d'Huez climb. I can't remember if there are any additional dangers to the Villard-Reculas road though, I know there are some horrendous sheer drops off of the Col de Solude road that make organisers wary of using it, as descending it in race conditions would be a problem.

I don't see Le Tour going for that, or possibly even the Dauphiné, but I could see l'Avenir, maybe the TdFF, or one of the regional races (although Isère borders them, it doesn't fit in any of the smaller ones like Ain or Savoie) perhaps. But if you're going to approach the Alpe that way, it's probably better to just replicate the 2017 Dauphiné finish but after Galibier north as it will encourage more racing on the Galibier. Or just then descend Alpe in full and put the finish at Oz-en-Oisans, Auris-en-Oisans, or Les-Deux-Alpes. Auris would be particularly interesting as you wouldn't have to descend all of the Alpe either, just to La Garde and then climb the last 11km of this side. It's probably more realistic to expect them to climb l'Alpe d'Huez and descend through Sarenne before climbing the last 12km of this side though.

I did do a stage over Galibier north, then looping through Alpe d'Huez and Sarenne and finishing at Les-Deux-Alpes, it was the Pantani veneration stage in my Fantasy Doping Draft Tour de France, but unfortunately it's been lost to the great Cronoescalada wipe and imgur's deletions.