tour de luxembourg 18-22 september 2024

[Heston]

Mads with a great time. Cant see whos gonna beat that today

 

[Ilmaestro99]

I am taking a brief moment to reminisce the 02 May 2021, Masnada beating Ganna, Dennis, Cattaneo, etc in a time trial to cement the tour Romandie podium. Seems ridiculous to think about these days

 

[pastronef]

Lidl-Trek riders have been wearing at least 3 different unbranded TT helmets this season. Met, Poc, Giro

 

[Tim Cahill]

Mauri has been up all night honing his position, working on his craft. He's also been the phone to Evenepoel asking for some advice, so will be turning up to the tt with a golden helmet and an entire chocolate cake in preparation.

 

[Coffeeplanter]

The horror helmet strikes once more.

 

[KZD]

Ayuso beating Pedersen by 11 seconds at the finish line, he is the new leader.

 

[Tim Cahill]

Wilco not the best, he will be working for his leader next week, Bauke Mollema.

 

[pastronef]

vamos Ayuso! let's hope he holds on

 

[Tim Cahill]

VDP kinda flying, only 4s down at the time check

 

[pastronef]

VDP kinda flying, only 4s down at the time check

let's hope the gap stays the same at the finish

 

[YavorD]

I think VDP is a bit underrated as a TTer. When he wants he is up there.

 

[Tim Cahill]

Ayuso is an incredible tt-bike descender actually, not the first time I've seen him put time into everyone on one like this.

 

[Coffeeplanter]

I think VDS is a bit underrated as a TTer. When he wants he is up there.

Underrated as to what standard? Everybody knows he can put in a fairly good time trial over these sort of distances, where he can use his explosiveness and superior technique.

Insert him in Zurich and he'd finish 24th or thereabouts, probably.

 

[Coffeeplanter]

This is the rebirth of Juan Ayuso, King of 2.Pro and everything below. Heir to the Hirschi throne.

 

[pastronef]

great to see Juan Ayuso back winning

 

[SafeBet]

Only a heatstroke saved Tiberi from becoming the record holder in top10s without a win in a single season.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Juan Ayullrich is back on top!

 

[jmdirt]

No requirement for his backside to be on the saddle: we've all watched climbs and sprints. The issue is his chest as weight-bearing.

It says "seat on the saddle" so there is a requirement.

 

[jmdirt]

I cited the rule two posts above yours.

It is not about whether your backside is on the saddle, nor what part of it is, but what part of the bike is supporting your weight through what part of your body: Handlebars (hands only, not forearms except in TT, not chest as Formolo seemed to do here), pedals (feet, obviously) and saddle( what the UCI refers to as 'seat', thus outlawing the superman position).

I think that 'seat' means butt. Seat on the saddle means butt on the saddle, right?

 

[Hugo Koblet]

brother what, obviously he won't follow all moves and Vansevant and Formolo went quite early. VDP had no teammates, he gambled on UAE to solve his problems.

He stayed with Hirschi apart from a small moment on the final climb, and dropped all other contenders. With some reputated climbers here like Gaudu and Kelderman. If anything he showed strong form.

Weird conclusions being drawn here

I agree that "form" might not be the right word, as he actually seems to be in great shape. However, if he can't follow Hirschi on a stage like this, it's difficult to imagine him beating Pogacar and Evenepoel on a tougher course. And with all due respect to Gaudu and Kelderman, being able to keep up with them doesn't mean much when it comes to the Worlds.

 

[Tricycle Rider]

Had to get some work done today, I trust the scenery and weather were just lovely?

 

[KZD]

He did look weaker than Hirschi. Which is not a shame but Hirschi is 23/1 to win the worldchampionship.

Right now who do you think has a bigger chance To win the worlds', Hirschi or VdP?

For me its Van der Poel.

Yes, Hirschi looked a bit stronger than him yesterday but the Worlds is a 274km one-day race not a hilly 202km stage in the Tour of Luxemburg where Van der Poel was actually the one that finished ahead.

Lots of people underestimate how hard is to do that extra hour/hour and a half that you have in the monuments/Worlds when compared to shorter one day races or hilly stages and Van der Poel is just one of the three riders in the world that is used to win these races, the other two, Pogačar and Remco are riders that I think have a bigger chance to win the Worlds because they are likely to drop him.

Having said that, 23/1 is a pretty good odd for Hirschi as he probably has the biggest chance of taking gold among 'mortals'.

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

I think that 'seat' means butt. Seat on the saddle means butt on the saddle, right?

Yep, UCI being a bit Miss Jean Brodie with their translation there.

 

[Rob5091]

Ayuso doing a very good TT - chapeau. Only 10 seconds between the top 5 on GC so can be an interesting last day. Good day for UAE with Baroncini also winning.

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

It says "seat on the saddle" so there is a requirement.

No: it is one of the three permitted "points of support": not all of them need to be maintained at all times. If someone chose to ride the entire race out of the saddle, the rules would not be broken. But torso on toptube is not a permitted point of support, and not is forearms/chest on handlebars.