tour de luxembourg 18-22 september 2024

[ManicJack]

But torso on toptube is not a permitted point of support,

I'd like to see that.

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

I'd like to see that.

I can't imagine any non-torso part of the body being on the toptube. I can easily imagine parts of the torso that are not the backside being there (painful as it may be).

 

[ManicJack]

I can't imagine any non-torso part of the body being on the toptube. I can easily imagine parts of the torso that are not the backside being there (painful as it may be).

I was picturing part of the torso other than the pelvic area.

 

[Sciatic]

No: it is one of the three permitted "points of support": not all of them need to be maintained at all times. If someone chose to ride the entire race out of the saddle, the rules would not be broken. But torso on toptube is not a permitted point of support, and not is forearms/chest on handlebars.

So if he rode that descent in virtually the same position ( with butt contact) but used his arms and core to keep his chest a centimeter above the bars he’d be legal?
This is the trouble with creating rules that are so artificial and unjustified ( not based on data)—it puts officials in the ridiculous position of having to get out rulers to measure sock length.

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

So if he rode that descent in virtually the same position ( with butt contact) but used his arms and core to keep his chest a centimeter above the bars he’d be legal?
This is the trouble with creating rules that are so artificial and unjustified (not based on data)—it puts officials in the ridiculous position of having to get out rulers to measure sock length.

Not my role to try to defend the UCI, but I cannot see how such a rule could be based on data. Specifying what are and are not permitted points of contact seems just about the only objective way to legislate on the matter.

 

[Hugh Januss]

So if he rode that descent in virtually the same position ( with butt contact) but used his arms and core to keep his chest a centimeter above the bars he’d be legal?
This is the trouble with creating rules that are so artificial and unjustified ( not based on data)—it puts officials in the ridiculous position of having to get out rulers to measure sock length.

Let's make cycling like figure skating and NBA foul calls.

 

[Sciatic]

Not my role to try to defend the UCI, but I cannot see how such a rule could be based on data. Specifying what are and are not permitted points of contact seems just about the only objective way to legislate on the matter.

The data would be statistics showing that descending position contributed to more, and more (% wise) injurious crashes on race descents than other descending positions used in the same circumstances. I think they just used the “eye test” to determine it’s more risky, without any other proofs.
Creating artificial rules, they can show they’re doing something about rider safety.

 

[Hugh Januss]

No.

Then again Ayuso did finish with Hirschi and has the better TT, so there's also a case to be made that Hirschi should have been working for Ayuso rather than the other way round.

When you're right....................

 

[balac]

I don't see how VDP controls this tomorrow. Probably a non UAE rider wins the stage and GC.

 

[RedheadDane]

I don't see how VDP controls this tomorrow. Probably a non UAE rider wins the stage and GC.

That doesn't actually rule out VDP.

 

[Tim Cahill]

Hirschi, Mauri, VDP and others have gone on the climb 150k out and have a sizeable gap.

Situation​

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  1		1	HIRSCHI Marc	0:08
  2		11	VAN DER POEL Mathieu	+0
  3		21	TIBERI Antonio	0:10
  4		22	STANNARD Robert	13:57
  5		43	RYAN Archie	4:39
  6		46	SWEENY Harry	0:28
  7		53	GAUDU David	0:39
  8		62	BERNARD Julien	28:40
  9		66	SIMMONS Quinn	1:52
  10		71	MILESI Lorenzo	22:05
  11		82	VANSEVENANT Mauri	0:03
  12		95	STAUNE-MITTET Johannes	1:59
  13		96	GRAAT Tijmen	2:13
  14		102	VANHOUCKE Harm	9:41
  15		145	PIGANZOLI Davide	0:46
  16		165	STORER Michael	1:03
  17		186	WENZEL Mats	0:57

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  +1:35

 

[Rob5091]

Ayuso has missed out so far.

 

[hayneplane]

Wonder who chased that move down as with the whole of the top 10 in it barring Ayuso, and his key teammate Hirschi was in there, it was not obvious who would be motivated or able to successfully chase it back.

 

[Pantani_lives]

Ayuso can win his first grand tour: the Tour of the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg.

 

[steffr222]

Wonder who chased that move down as with the whole of the top 10 in it barring Ayuso, and his key teammate Hirschi was in there, it was not obvious who would be motivated or able to successfully chase it back.

Lidl-Trek

 

[Offline]

Ayuso is such a weird rider.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Ayuso is such a weird rider.

Why exactly?

 

[Tim Cahill]

Wilco sneaking into moves!!!

 

[pastronef]

Tiberi and Simmons in the break. some will not like that (and Simmons did nothing bad tbf)

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Tiberi the sniper with a great move

 

[Offline]

Why exactly?

He just really bad at too many things

 

[Tim Cahill]

Jegat bridging over was crazy, went out of the peloton like a cannon

 

[Tim Cahill]

Il cecchino di San Marino winning a stage race because Hirschi and Ayuso can't decide who the leader is and VDP being tired because he's been attacking from 150k out for no reason, it's all funny stuff.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

UAE refusing to work for each other hahahahahahaja

 

[AstralVelo]

All this and it's EF riding, nice one UAE