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Arnout said:
Thanks for that video. Cycling looks like to be so much cooler back then, although part of that feeling will be my nostalgia. This was the Tour that really got me into cycling. Sadly the team doctor of Euskaltel left a year later.

Racing in the late 90s and 00s was much more conservative than in the 80s...
 
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Ryo Hazuki said:
bs,. just look how rthey sprint up that mountain. you doin;t see that anymiore. immediately everyone is dropped and I mean everyone
It just looks comical. The trance music doesn't help. It looks like a spinning session, not a mountain top finish.
 
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Congrats to LLS for getting his 3rd win of the year and being close on GC ( he now has a good chance to take this if the old LLS rises ). Meersmann is improving i thought he would win.

Porte and Rogers were impressive.

Looking forward to attacks tomorrow ( i liked that Kreuziger/ Brajkovic tried ).
 
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Dekker_Tifosi said:
:D always nice to collect those

There has been a lot of Rabo fail, but this week they got 3 wins so that's good.
Actually they comitted to go for the win today and got it so that's good.

Allthough I understand those comments since usually they end up failing :D
 
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18-Valve. (pithy) said:
Typical De Gendt. He'll always be a stage hunter and nothing else unless he changes his attitude.

Imo Vacansoleil should cherish that ability of De Gendt. Let him lose time early in a stage race and then he will pick his day and wins a stage. He has shown he's very capable of doing that and it's almost a garanteed stage win. What's not to like?
 
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Just read Evans comments about stage 3 on his website and he said his legs still arn't there yet, so I am not expecting him to do much in the next 2 stages. He drifted down the field in the finish yesterday to finish thirty-sometyhing.

If he can finish in the first group in stage 4 and finish in the top 15 in the TT then I think he would be satisfied, given he is a little underdone due to illness.

Overall, I think he has looked pretty good and is on track to defend his Tour title, although Wiggins is a bit of a worry.
 
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dlwssonic said:
and yet all those eurosport commentators call it the "dark days of cycling".

nope. they don't maybe in singapore or wherever you are listening. besides you weren't even watching cycling back then
 
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Ryo Hazuki said:
nope. they don't maybe in singapore or wherever you are listening. besides you weren't even watching cycling back then
indeed, dwlssonic would not call it that if he knew that back then, riders used to attack on La Redoute in LBL (35km before the finish), and on the Eyserbosweg in AGR (25km before the finish). And the field fell apart there and only little groups were left.

He probably doesn't believe that such cool races were possible back then
 
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Woody22 said:
Just read Evans comments about stage 3 on his website and he said his legs still arn't there yet, so I am not expecting him to do much in the next 2 stages. He drifted down the field in the finish yesterday to finish thirty-sometyhing.

If he can finish in the first group in stage 4 and finish in the top 15 in the TT then I think he would be satisfied, given he is a little underdone due to illness.

Overall, I think he has looked pretty good and is on track to defend his Tour title, although Wiggins is a bit of a worry.

WIggins will beat him at the tour.
 
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Dekker_Tifosi said:
indeed, dwlssonic would not call it that if he knew that back then, riders used to attack on La Redoute in LBL (35km before the finish), and on the Eyserbosweg in AGR (25km before the finish). And the field fell apart there and only little groups were left.

He probably doesn't believe that such cool races were possible back then
Seriously, stop talking as if it were a golden age of spectacular cycling. It was much more conservative than anything that went before it, particularly before the 90s.
 
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hrotha said:
Seriously, stop talking as if it were a golden age of spectacular cycling. It was much more conservative than anything that went before it, particularly before the 90s.

Most of us probably didn't watch cycling before the 90's. Maybe/probably it was better before that, but I don't have any personal experience of that era.

Still, I wouldn't say everything was better in the 90's and early 00's. The Indurain and Amrstrong Tours were mostly extremely boring. Milano-Sanremo in the Zabel years were hardly a treat. The Giro has been a lot better in the last couple of years as well, the prestige and route has increased a lot, it was mostly a second rate Italian race back then (although this year doesn't look that promising either).

AGR, LBL and the Fleche were a lot better though. It was far from uncommon to have interesting finales of 30/40km in those races.
 
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Ryo Hazuki said:
nope. they don't maybe in singapore or wherever you are listening. besides you weren't even watching cycling back then

Dekker_Tifosi said:
indeed, dwlssonic would not call it that if he knew that back then, riders used to attack on La Redoute in LBL (35km before the finish), and on the Eyserbosweg in AGR (25km before the finish). And the field fell apart there and only little groups were left.

He probably doesn't believe that such cool races were possible back then
Sssh, grandpa Ryo and grandma Dekker_T are speaking. About the golden days that once were, a few years ago.
 
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Wait, it's a video of Alpe d'Huez in 03?

Where the race exploded at the bottom like it usually does and then more and more people came back and 7 riders finished s.t. behind Mayo and Vinokourov.
 
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Well, I was watching in 2003. I must say I enjoyed it. But I'd also like to emphasize that I didn't like finding out they doped themselves. Doping should be there for everyone or for no-one. I know the spectatular early attacks were amazing to watch, I fully agree. But that was merely possible cause of top riders doping themselves and thus creating a bigger gap. The top has become tighter last years.
 
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Azabael said:
I know the spectatular early attacks were amazing to watch, I fully agree. But that was merely possible cause of top riders doping themselves and thus creating a bigger gap.
Sigh, no. If anything, widespread doping raised the average level so much it made early attacks an increasingly bad idea.
 
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hrotha said:
Sigh, no. If anything, widespread doping raised the average level so much it made early attacks an increasingly bad idea.

Correct. So if no-one dopes, the top will be tigher, just like when everyone dopes. Which is why I said this was possible when only certain people doped themselves.
 
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hrotha said:
Seriously, stop talking as if it were a golden age of spectacular cycling. It was much more conservative than anything that went before it, particularly before the 90s.

compared to now it was golden. the 90s were even better
 
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hrotha said:
Sigh, no. If anything, widespread doping raised the average level so much it made early attacks an increasingly bad idea.

I wish ti was true. unfortunately there is no doping left in the peloton anymore basiclaly, which means every rider maye have one shot left in a race/one attack and it's boring as **** the last few msrs'nobody could attack even on the poggio that's how dead they were cuz lack of energy/doping
 
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Azabael said:
Correct. So if no-one dopes, the top will be tigher, just like when everyone dopes. Which is why I said this was possible when only certain people doped themselves.
More naturally talented riders benefit less from doping, so no, it's not the same.
Ryo Hazuki said:
compared to now it was golden. the 90s were even better
And the 80s were even better, and the 70s were better than the 80s, and so on and so on. Point is, EPO has nothing to do with it, except maybe to make it worse.
 
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the 80s weren't better than the 90s. or the 70s better than the 80s. that;'s just your opinion, you are just a blind hater of dopign, we all know by now :rolleyes: