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James M said:
I didn't say it was a good thing I literally called it what it is: a fact. Besides Del Torro, Pog, Morgado, and Christen, Im not intrigued about anyone personally on UAE, doesn’t change the fact that their next lvl and cleaning house.
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Then I stand corrected. Because that is indeed a fact. Nothing personal either, my point was just that teams dominating like that is bad for the sport in my opinion. Didn't like it back in 2023 either, or back when Sky did their thing.
 
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Cycling111 said:
Vine won three mountain stages in the Vuelta with Alpecin. He hasn't had any more important victories than than those.

Alpecin isn't a team that wins in mountain stages, and he did it there. I don't think it would be different in other team.
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Its simply the TDF. He wants to ride the TDF and its unlikely to happen at UAE.
 
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I hope REV is able to limit his loss to 30sec. But the bigger part of me is saying this is wishful thinking.
 
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That's interesting about the mercenary, Jay V$ne, the categorisation of him as stupid, I can see where people are coming from but I have a different outlook. Devoid of charisma, robotic, lacking in finesse on the bike perhaps, but I think this has been misunderstood.

He strikes me as clinical, direct, completely open about what drives him. Many of the best have (to varying degrees) materialistic ambition; Froome, Cavendish, Van Der Poel, Pogacar, but what separates him is how open he is about his motivations. A gun for hire, The Day of the Jackal, sold to the highest bidder. This is unlikely to endear him to many, but sport needs characters with differing and competing motivations to stay interesting. I also think he is underrated as a cyclist, and with proper uninterrupted training could be used as a 3rd GC option, maybe he will even win here.

His opposite would be riders like Seville, Mancebo, Bala, who stay for love of the game alone. I can see Bernal and Superman Lopez going down a similar route, perhaps even Roglic, guys who probably should be told to stop before they are carted off in a Hearse.

In the middle people you have those impossible to pin down, but they are rare in cycling. In sport Ronnie O'Sullivan is the best example, a man who both hates and loves snooker, cursed with his own genius, who talks about prize money but would give it all up just to be left alone. Extrovert and introvert on the most extreme ends of the spectrum.
 
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Tim Cahill said:
That's interesting about the mercenary, Jay V$ne, the categorisation of him as stupid, I can see where people are coming from but I have a different outlook. Devoid of charisma, robotic, lacking in finesse on the bike perhaps, but I think this has been misunderstood.

He strikes me as clinical, direct, completely open about what drives him. Many of the best have (to varying degrees) materialistic ambition; Froome, Cavendish, Van Der Poel, Pogacar, but what separates him is how open he is about his motivations. A gun for hire, The Day of the Jackal, sold to the highest bidder. This is unlikely to endear him to many, but sport needs characters with differing and competing motivations to stay interesting. I also think he is underrated as a cyclist, and with proper uninterrupted training could be used as a 3rd GC option, maybe he will even win here.

His opposite would be riders like Seville, Mancebo, Bala, who stay for love of the game alone. I can see Bernal and Superman Lopez going down a similar route, perhaps even Roglic, guys who probably should be told to stop before they are carted off in a Hearse.

In the middle people you have those impossible to pin down, but they are rare in cycling. In sport Ronnie O'Sullivan is the best example, a man who both hates and loves snooker, cursed with his own genius, who talks about prize money but would give it all up just to be left alone. Extrovert and introvert on the most extreme ends of the spectrum.
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And what are the ambitions of Vingegaard, Roglic, or Remco?Also to win.
It's curious to mention some names, as always biased by personal preferences. But deep down, they all have the same motivation and ambition: to win. They've all gone into professional sports; no one gets into such a tough sport if they don't have ambition.

By the way, Froome is the antithesis of Van der Poel and Pogacar. Vingegaard is much more like Froome than Pogacar to Froome.

The ambition of every athlete is to win. Some will have more or less ability, but they're all there to compete in professional sports and win.
It strikes me as odd that this is defined as a criticism.
 
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Tim Cahill

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Cycling111 said:
And what are the ambitions of Vingegaard, Roglic, or Remco?Also to win.
It's curious to mention some names.

By the way, Froome is the antithesis of Van der Poel and Pogacar. Vingegaard is much more like Froome than Pogacar to Froome.

The ambition of every athlete is to win. Some will have more or less ability, but they're all there to compete in professional sports and win.
It strikes me as odd that this is defined as a criticism.
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Not a single point in my post was framed as criticism. Fighting ghosts.

Cycling111 said:
Vine? He has no chance of winning the TDF.
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Tim Cahill said:
That's interesting about the mercenary, Jay V$ne, the categorisation of him as stupid, I can see where people are coming from but I have a different outlook. Devoid of charisma, robotic, lacking in finesse on the bike perhaps, but I think this has been misunderstood.

He strikes me as clinical, direct, completely open about what drives him. Many of the best have (to varying degrees) materialistic ambition; Froome, Cavendish, Van Der Poel, Pogacar, but what separates him is how open he is about his motivations. A gun for hire, The Day of the Jackal, sold to the highest bidder. This is unlikely to endear him to many, but sport needs characters with differing and competing motivations to stay interesting. I also think he is underrated as a cyclist, and with proper uninterrupted training could be used as a 3rd GC option, maybe he will even win here.

His opposite would be riders like Seville, Mancebo, Bala, who stay for love of the game alone. I can see Bernal and Superman Lopez going down a similar route, perhaps even Roglic, guys who probably should be told to stop before they are carted off in a Hearse.

In the middle people you have those impossible to pin down, but they are rare in cycling. In sport Ronnie O'Sullivan is the best example, a man who both hates and loves snooker, cursed with his own genius, who talks about prize money but would give it all up just to be left alone. Extrovert and introvert on the most extreme ends of the spectrum.
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I find it rather charming at this point. It helps that he is also quite goofy and clumsy, so the two UAE riders I'm still happy to see win are him and McNulty.

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Based on the forum comments, there's not much confidence in Remco for today.

Remco certainly hasn't won one of the seven major-tours yet.
Last year in Paris Nice, he came closer to achieving it, but Jorgenson beat him.

This is Remco's sixth season, so it's curious that he hasn't won one yet. Romandy could be his first.
 
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Cycling111

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yaco said:
Of course he has no hope of winning BUT he wants to join an edition of the TDF. Its a pity you missed the gist of my post.
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Yes. But hith his problems with crashes, it's difficult for him to be selected for a TDF in any important team.
 
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Cycling111 said:
Based on the forum comments, there's not much confidence in Remco for today.

Remco certainly hasn't won one of the seven major-tours yet.
Last year in Paris Nice, he came closer to achieving it, but Jorgenson beat him.

This is Remco's sixth season, so it's curious that he hasn't won one yet. Romandy could be his first.
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Evenepoel's season started 2 weeks ago, while other guys have been slowly building towards the Tour since February. We also have not seen him climb this season, while in the one race he should have stepped up, he blew up. Historically, he has been pretty much subpar at climbing in between goals or when he can not be bothered to pay attention to his weight. Bottomline, we don't know and it's hard to predict. If Remco shows up with last years TDF or Vuelta '22 legs, he will drop everybody hard. If he shows up with his Tirreno '22 legs (and weight), everybody will drop him hard. The reason he might do better than expected though, is that he already has been at altitude and (imho) he looks lighter than he usually does for these races.
 
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Cycling111 said:
Based on the forum comments, there's not much confidence in Remco for today.

Remco certainly hasn't won one of the seven major-tours yet.
Last year in Paris Nice, he came closer to achieving it, but Jorgenson beat him.

This is Remco's sixth season, so it's curious that he hasn't won one yet. Romandy could be his first.
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One week races?
 
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Cycling111 said:
Based on the forum comments, there's not much confidence in Remco for today.

Remco certainly hasn't won one of the seven major-tours yet.
Last year in Paris Nice, he came closer to achieving it, but Jorgenson beat him.

This is Remco's sixth season, so it's curious that he hasn't won one yet. Romandy could be his first.
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He hasn't won yet because he is not a natural climber but I'm pretty sure he would beat Ayuso in TA 2025.
 
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