Tour de San Luis l 2.1 l 17-1 / 23-1-2011

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It's ok, you have your opinion, i have mine (i don't agree with you)... but it's the forum is about... :)
 
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Ryo Hazuki said:
No it's nothing personal I just dislike the overall new sentiment " new cyclingfans" have about fair play. I can't stand these homo;'s holding each others hands to the finish. last years tour made me more sick than ever.

hmm I do disagree with you regarding the fair play sentiment evident in cycling (and in many other sports, such as cricket, rugby etc), although it can go too far at times.
 
Sofía_ said:
It's ok, you have your opinion, i have mine (i don't agree with you)... but it's the forum is about... :)
The problem here Sofia is the following:

By looking at the GC the end of previous stage we have the following players:

2 Jose Serpa (Col) Androni-Giocattoli 0:00:34
3 Marco Arriagada (Chi) Chile 0:00:37
4 Eros Capecchi (Ita) Liquigas-Cannondale 0:01:28
5 Josue Moyano (Arg) Argentina 0:01:52
6 Jorge Giacinti (Arg) Argentina 0:02:13
7 Gerardo Fernandez (Arg) Argentina 0:02:33
8 Luis Mansilla (Chi) Chile 0:03:30
9 Leandro Messineo (Arg) Argentina
10 Fortunato Baliani (Ita) D'Angelo & Antenucci 0:03:54
11 Juan E. Arango (Col) Colombia 0:04:45
12 Jesus Rosendo (Spa) Andalucia-Caja Granada 0:04:53
13 Miguel Angel Rubiano (Col) D'Angelo & Antenucci 0:04:56
14 Iker Camaño (Spa) Endura Racing 0:05:06
15 Julien Berard (Fra) AG2R La Mondiale

By this logic of waiting you almost would have to put a complete halt to the Tour of San Luis in the last 3 km because you had the #2, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 10, 11, 12, 13, 15, etc contending for the race. That is practically impossible.

Here are the results so you can see what I mean:

1 Miguel Angel Rubiano (Col) D'Angelo & Antenucci 5:22:14
2 Antonio Piedra (Spa) Andalucia-Caja Granada 0:01:29
3 Marco Arriagada (Chi) Chile
4 Josue Moyano (Arg) Argentina 0:02:01
5 Gonzalo Garrido (Chi) Chile
6 Camilo Gomez (Col) Colombia
7 Maarten De Jonge (Ned) Endura Racing 0:02:03
8 Eros Capecchi (Ita) Liquigas-Cannondale 0:02:05
9 Jose Serpa (Col) Androni-Giocattoli 0:02:06
10 Luis Mansilla (Chi) Chile 0:04:25
11 Julien Berard (Fra) AG2R La Mondiale
12 Arnold Alcolea (Cub) Cuba
13 Jorge Giacinti (Arg) Argentina
14 Fortunato Baliani (Ita) D'Angelo & Antenucci
15 Douglas Moi (Bra) Funvic-Pindamonhangaba
16 Jesus Rosendo (Spa) Andalucia-Caja Granada
17 Juan E. Arango (Col) Colombia
18 Gerardo Fernandez (Arg) Argentina
19 Christian Meier (Can) Unitedhealthcare
20 Guillaume Bonnafond (Fra) AG2R La Mondiale

I like fair play also, but there is a play for it, and this one was not one of them. Say if they were still far away from the finish line and everyone was still riding together, maybe. But never towards the end of stage when everyone is full speed trying to put the knockout punch. Maybe that was one of the reasons why Tondo fell in the first place. He was fatigued. Remember that fatigue and falls are in some cases related.

I see you are new in participation in this forum. Welcome.:)
 
Tondo said he would have been dropped anyway:
“Just after the top we rode together and I was feeling like sooner or later I would get dropped,” he said. “I thought that the last part was flat but there were a lot of little hills and on one of them I felt bad, I touched Marco’s rear wheel and I crashed, alone. It was my fault. Either way, if I didn’t crash, I would have been dropped on the next little hill.”
 
Ryo Hazuki said:
No it's nothing personal I just dislike the overall new sentiment " new cyclingfans" have about fair play. I can't stand these homo;'s holding each others hands to the finish. last years tour made me more sick than ever.

You cannot call someone a "dumbface", least of all a relative newcomer to a forum, and then claim that it is not personal.

You owe a proper apology.
 

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