Tour de Suisse 2017 (10/06 > 18/06/2017)

Page 28 - Get up to date with the latest news, scores & standings from the Cycling News Community.
Feb 10, 2015
5,933
804
19,680
I'm baffled by all these weak sprinters that didn't try anything in the last kilometers, with a small bunch like this one.

If you're not Sagan, Degenkolb, Modolo, Matthews... what is the point of waiting?
 
Jan 27, 2012
15,231
2,623
28,180
Re: Re:

jaylew said:
RedheadDane said:
jaylew said:
Geraint Too Fast said:
What happened to all the GC riders? :confused:
GC time taken at the end of penultimate lap

Why, though? There wasn't any problems with wet roads.
Simply so they wouldn't mess up in/with the sprint?
Sounds like it. Weird decision.

Terrible decision. We don't need our sport to become "soft".
 
portugal11 said:
Irondan said:
Gigs_98 said:
Impressive from Sagan. Meanwhile Degenkolb looks absolutely horrible
He's never fully recovered from that near career ending crash it seems.
Yeah... i think the same about phinney
Him too.

Two phenomenal riders with careers ruined by events beyond their control, it's too bad really.

Phinney never reached a time when his talent paid dividends but Degankolb did, at least he'll always have his monument victories...
 
Feb 9, 2013
7,196
8,615
23,180
While I had trouble picking out Sagan at the end (wasn't listening to commentary) because he was wearing a black jersey rather than the white one I can now tell it's him because he's the big guy whose ankles stick out kinda like Froome's elbows stick out. (Note to self - if all other visual identification fails look at the ankles.)

Anyhoo, fun finish, Sagan just makes it look too easy.
 
May 22, 2017
14
0
0
Re: Re:

Dazed and Confused said:
jaylew said:
RedheadDane said:
jaylew said:
Geraint Too Fast said:
What happened to all the GC riders? :confused:
GC time taken at the end of penultimate lap

Why, though? There wasn't any problems with wet roads.
Simply so they wouldn't mess up in/with the sprint?
Sounds like it. Weird decision.

Terrible decision. We don't need our sport to become "soft".

Hardly a terrible decision. While we don't have an explanation on why the decision was made, I would make an educated guess that it was all about increasing rider safety, something that cycling should never dismiss.
What would have been the value of having the whole peloton at the finish line, especially considering, we still got a good finish, which none of the GC would have contested?
 
May 5, 2010
51,759
30,310
28,180
Irondan said:
Gigs_98 said:
Impressive from Sagan. Meanwhile Degenkolb looks absolutely horrible
He's never fully recovered from that near career ending crash it seems.

Looks like he was still wearing the thingy on his finger.






(I... don't know the English word...)
 
Re: Re:

muvonga said:
Dazed and Confused said:
jaylew said:
RedheadDane said:
jaylew said:
GC time taken at the end of penultimate lap

Why, though? There wasn't any problems with wet roads.
Simply so they wouldn't mess up in/with the sprint?
Sounds like it. Weird decision.

Terrible decision. We don't need our sport to become "soft".

Hardly a terrible decision. While we don't have an explanation on why the decision was made, I would make an educated guess that it was all about increasing rider safety, something that cycling should never dismiss.
What would have been the value of having the whole peloton at the finish line, especially considering, we still got a good finish, which none of the GC would have contested?
The value?

The value is that this is a World Tour race that should be raced to the finish line, like every other race in the World Tour.

Today set a terrible precedent... :eek:
 
May 5, 2010
51,759
30,310
28,180
I'd say it's almost the other way around; the organisers didn't trust the GC contentenders to not be so desperate for a few seconds that they'd potentially endanger themselves and others.
Just trust that the GC riders are smart enough to not get all up there in the sprint, especially since they'd plenty of chance to see the finish and know it could - possibly? - be a bit tricky.
 
Apr 29, 2012
795
24
10,030
Well done Aqua Blue, Lasse Norman Hansen secured the KoM jersey with a great ride in the break today, taking maximum points on every time up the climb! A great week for the fledgling Irish team with a stage win and a classifications jersey for their efforts, they have ridden aggressively in the breaks all season and its great to see them get the rewards they deserve this week!
 
May 5, 2010
51,759
30,310
28,180
*Puts on names of Danish riders explanation hat*

Norman is - like Cort and Valgren - rarely, if ever, referred to by his "sen" surname. Besides, there are plenty of Hansens already, no need to confuse matters with another one.
But about the mountain jersey, in the last few sprints, before the jersey was (virtually) settled Van Der Lijke didn't even try. Why?
 
Apr 29, 2012
795
24
10,030
Re:

RedheadDane said:
*Puts on names of Danish riders explanation hat*

Norman is - like Cort and Valgren - rarely, if ever, referred to by his "sen" surname. Besides, there are plenty of Hansens already, no need to confuse matters with another one.
But about the mountain jersey, in the last few sprints, before the jersey was (virtually) settled Van Der Lijke didn't even try. Why?

Fixed the name issue ;)

No idea, after they both got in the break it looked like a straight fight between the two of them for the KOM jersey, but no real contest emerged, maybe he just didn't have the legs?
 
Jun 30, 2014
7,060
2
0
The finishing circuit was rather messy and it could have been ungly, but I don't like the precedent.
That said, the TdS has a history of having wacky, dangerous finishing circuits. I understand that the race organizers like then because of financial reasons, but they are often pretty dangerous and if they tried a bit harder the race would be a lot safer.
Great effort by Sagan, but who is Trentin's leadout man, was that really Stybar? This was the 2nd time that he totally blew it, the train was strong until he hit the front, he just lacks the top speed, Gilbert would probably do a better job.
 
Feb 9, 2013
7,196
8,615
23,180
Re: Re:

Irondan said:
The value is that this is a World Tour race that should be raced to the finish line, like every other race in the World Tour.

Today set a terrible precedent... :eek:
Are you saying some tiny little climber should have been able to sprint Sagan to the finish in this type of stage?

Not asking for trouble, mind, I'm just curious.