Tour de Suisse stage 5 Unterterzen - Rettenbachferner 237 km

[Domulec]

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Dumoulin to win overall?

Don't know. Pinot can time-trial allright if he has to. He'll be motivated to take it and might not lose all that much. Going to be really interesting, that's for sure.

 

[De Snelle Duif]

Dumoulin might win the GC, he will also attempt to sneak back some seconds I think

 

[djpbaltimore]

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Can Thomas put 47 into Pinot in the TT?

Leipheimer/ Cunego redux? Should be a fun day in the forum.

 

[JRanton]

Re: Tour de Suisse stage 5 Unterterzen - Rettenbachferner 23

Doe anyone have a time for that climb? Seemed to go on forever!

 

[Gigs_98]

Re: Tour de Suisse stage 5 Unterterzen - Rettenbachferner 23

this will be extremely close. Pinot, Thomas, Spilak and Dumoulin all have their chances

 

[Cance > TheRest]

Final GC prediction:
1Spilak
2Pinot
3Thomas
4Dumoulin
5Fuglsang
6Pozzovivo
7Lopez

 

[Mr.White]

Great ride from Pinot, he should be really good in the TDF, might even podium. Thomas and Dumoulin..., well no comment

 

[Taxus4a]

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It's still a day/night transformation for the new season considering he is 29 and never shown anything like this.

True but the innuendo that he can only do cobbles and everthing else is suspicious is silly. He couldn't even do cobbles until he was 26-27. I repeat what I've said before - he's a second-rate Kwiatkowski with no sprint but better at cobbles. And he just cracked in the final 500m anyway.[/quote]

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Thomas has always climb very well, and he lost weight.

It is possible to be good on the cobbles and on the Mortirolo, to be excelent in both.. you must to be Merckx, Coppi or Hinault, but Thomas is not excelent in both.

He doenst look a heavy rider, anyway.

 

[Jagartrott]

Great ride by mon mec Thibaut - very smart riding, got dropped a couple of times but never panicked.

 

[DBotero]

Re: Tour de Suisse stage 5 Unterterzen - Rettenbachferner 23

Nice stage,impressive climbing shown by G. and Dumoulin.Looks like Spilak will get the GC win,G. and Dumoulin to complete the podium.

 

[BigMac]

Dismissing Pinot already? He was very good in last year's less hilly TT and has finished ahead of Spilak on all the hilly stages so far, so he can even gain more time on the ones to come. No way Spilak wins this,

 

[Billie]

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Thomas does enough to win the GC with that climb?

40 secs on Dumoulin won't be enough

 

[shalgo]

Re: Tour de Suisse stage 5 Unterterzen - Rettenbachferner 23

this will be extremely close. Pinot, Thomas, Spilak and Dumoulin all have their chances

Pozzovivo has on occasion turned in a very good time trial--such as in stage 11 of the 2013 Vuelta. I think the top 4 plus Dumoulin all still have a chance. But Pinot has looked very good on every stage so I think he is the favorite.

 

[BigMac]

That said, Dumoulin can still win.

 

[johnymax]

Špilak lost the overall with the attack 8km to go IMO. If he had waited and limited the loss to Pinot to let's say 20s, he could very well be the man to beat for the GC. Today he was clearly the second strongest if not even the strongest. He did 5km completely alone. It's not over yet, but G, Dumoulin and Pinot are in better position.He is still in striking distance tho.
Fuglsang is a big negative surprise to me.

 

[gunara]

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Špilak lost the overall with the attack 8km to go IMO. If he had waited and limited the loss to Pinot to let's say 20s, he could very well be the man to beat for the GC. Today he was clearly the second strongest if not even the strongest. He did 5km completely alone. It's not over yet, but G, Dumoulin and Pinot are in better position.He is still in striking distance tho.
Fuglsang is a big negative surprise to me.

If Thomas can make up 47". why don't you think Spilak can do with 50"?

 

[hfer07]

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Thomas teaching the 125 lb Colombian goat rider how to climb!!

Actually I have always regarded "G" as a good climber, but it is so strange to watch him up there among pure climbers, having in mind his body built-up for the classics. He and SKY surely know the perfect secret to shed weight like nothing while not losing PTWR.....

 

[May0maniac]

Impressive ride by Miguel Ángel López.

 

[Domulec]

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Impressive ride by Miguel Ángel López.

Yes, he did not show anything so far, besides the Tour of Turkey, which barely had any serious climbers. But in this field this is really impressive indeed. Breakthrough performance at this level.

 

[TMP402]

Thomas should try and win back 10 seconds on stage 8. Sharp climb 5km from the finish - he is surely better than Pinot and Spilak at accelerating up a puncheur's climb and then individual pursuiting to the finish 5km later.

 

[gunara]

Thomas teaching the 125 lb Colombian goat rider how to climb!!

Actually I have always regarded "G" as a good climber, but it is so strange to watch him up there among pure climbers, having in mind his body built-up for the classics. He and SKY surely know the perfect secret to shed weight like nothing while not losing PTWR.....

Yeah, I have always assumed he's good uphill too, not at these other guys' level, though. And then came his cobble huge breakthrough, and now I'm confused.

 

[johnymax]

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Špilak lost the overall with the attack 8km to go IMO. If he had waited and limited the loss to Pinot to let's say 20s, he could very well be the man to beat for the GC. Today he was clearly the second strongest if not even the strongest. He did 5km completely alone. It's not over yet, but G, Dumoulin and Pinot are in better position.He is still in striking distance tho.
Fuglsang is a big negative surprise to me.

If Thomas can make up 47". why don't you think Spilak can do with 50"?

Maybe you are right. It's because I think Thomas is a little better time trialist, although Špilak beat him in Paris-Nice on Col d'Eze when G was also in superb form. Pinot is still the man to beat imo. He has a nice gap. Špilak realy didn't play it smart with the attack that far out, but it's ok. Still very nice stage for him. It' will be very interesting in the last two stages.

 

[May0maniac]

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Impressive ride by Miguel Ángel López.

Yes, he did not show anything so far, besides the Tour of Turkey, which barely had any serious climbers. But in this field this is really impressive indeed. Breakthrough performance at this level.

To be fair, he had a fractured scaphoid and only started racing in Catalunya, I did not expect him to adapt to the speed of wt-racing on the flats so fast.

 

[TMP402]

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Špilak lost the overall with the attack 8km to go IMO. If he had waited and limited the loss to Pinot to let's say 20s, he could very well be the man to beat for the GC. Today he was clearly the second strongest if not even the strongest. He did 5km completely alone. It's not over yet, but G, Dumoulin and Pinot are in better position.He is still in striking distance tho.
Fuglsang is a big negative surprise to me.

If Thomas can make up 47". why don't you think Spilak can do with 50"?

Maybe you are right. It's because I think Thomas is a little better time trialist, although Špilak beat him in Paris-Nice on Col d'Eze when G was also in superb form. Pinot is still the man to beat imo. He has a nice gap. Špilak realy didn't play it smart with the attack that far out, but it's ok. Still very nice stage for him. It' will be very interesting in the last two stages.

That's a very good point although three things to note there. Firstly he had crashed the day before (rainy Gallopin breakaway), so maybe some discomfort and a knock to the confidence too. Secondly that was a rainy time-trial, and Spilak notoriously does best in rain. And finally this race's TT is going to be much flatter which I would think favours Thomas more.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Wow Pinot! He is ready for the Tour

Awesome climb by Dumoulin as well. He is not without a chance for the final victory... who would've guessed it. I thought he'd lose at least 2.30 minutes.

Gesink bad. Time to accept that the pre-leg break Gesink is never coming back. He had enough time and no more excuses this race.