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Tour de Yorkshire 28/04/17 - 30/04/17 2.1

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jaylew said:
dirkprovin said:
Baldinger said:
The Danish commentator is practically blind during the race.

Broken collarbone for Cort it seems.

Damned shame; frankly a damned shame that he was being wasted in this race as a slave for Little Mr Showboat .... who despite his theatrics got his colours lowered quite clearly by Groenewegen.
What theatrics? I saw nothing theatrical. And he was clearly gaining on Groenewegen at the end.
I think you misunderstood, it has nothing to do with theatrics, rather Ewan stealing dirkprovin's girlfriend (or something similar).
 
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Valv.Piti said:
jaylew said:
dirkprovin said:
Baldinger said:
The Danish commentator is practically blind during the race.

Broken collarbone for Cort it seems.

Damned shame; frankly a damned shame that he was being wasted in this race as a slave for Little Mr Showboat .... who despite his theatrics got his colours lowered quite clearly by Groenewegen.
What theatrics? I saw nothing theatrical. And he was clearly gaining on Groenewegen at the end.
I think you misunderstood, it has nothing to do with theatrics, rather Ewan stealing dirkprovin's girlfriend (or something similar).

Don't have a Missus, wise arse; they're too expensive so I'd probably thank him rather than pay out on him !! The theatrics refer to his ridiculous riding position which frankly IS pure theatrics rather than actually beneficial to his sprint. Just think he's a stupendous crit rider but goddam limited otherwise ...... and my reaction is largely due to the ridiculous "over boosting" of him by the AUS cycling media
 
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Valv.Piti said:
Yeah ok, good comeback. I just find the dislike, or even hate in this instance, a bit weird.

If you had to read the boosting, or have to listen to it over the past 3-4 years, from AUS cycling media THEN you'd probably understand my reaction more.

Don't hate him as a person although I dislike his showboating; just think he's an increasingly poor fit for ORS going forward. Classics based quick guys like Cort & most likely Edmondson ..... yes; a straight-out bunch kick man far less so. Whilst he'll always be able to pick up early season wins and against 2nd/3rd tier competition; come "peak season" I think he's more likely to come up short against the really top guys.
 
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dirkprovin said:
Valv.Piti said:
Yeah ok, good comeback. I just find the dislike, or even hate in this instance, a bit weird.

If you had to read the boosting, or have to listen to it over the past 3-4 years, from AUS cycling media THEN you'd probably understand my reaction more.

Don't hate him as a person although I dislike his showboating; just think he's an increasingly poor fit for ORS going forward. Classics based quick guys like Cort & most likely Edmondson ..... yes; a straight-out bunch kick man far less so. Whilst he'll always be able to pick up early season wins and against 2nd/3rd tier competition; come "peak season" I think he's more likely to come up short against the really top guys.
Well yeah, I agree with the overall sentiments, but a 'house' sprinter is valuable to any team IMO to boost the victory total. I don't think you'd necessarily have to go out of your way to support him, either.
 
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Dekker_Tifosi said:
Valv.Piti said:
Kruijswijk honestly should be able to win stage 3 this year tho and win overall. Weak competition and super hard parcours, stage 3 that is
Last year he was beaten by Voeckler and Roche on a similar course. It's too explosive and it's not a high mountain. He won't win :)
Isnt this stage a fair amount harder? You are probably right, but I don't think he should be able to be dropped against these guys at least.
 
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Dekker_Tifosi said:
Valv.Piti said:
Kruijswijk honestly should be able to win stage 3 this year tho and win overall. Weak competition and super hard parcours, stage 3 that is
Last year he was beaten by Voeckler and Roche on a similar course. It's too explosive and it's not a high mountain. He won't win :)
Yep, he never wins even when it is a high mountain and isn't explosive, so it would be a big surprise if he did anything here. Even though the field is terrible.
 
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DFA123 said:
Dekker_Tifosi said:
Valv.Piti said:
Kruijswijk honestly should be able to win stage 3 this year tho and win overall. Weak competition and super hard parcours, stage 3 that is
Last year he was beaten by Voeckler and Roche on a similar course. It's too explosive and it's not a high mountain. He won't win :)
Yep, he never wins even when it is a high mountain and isn't explosive, so it would be a big surprise if he did anything here. Even though the field is terrible.
In hindsight I can be incredibly butthurt about that MTT last year
 
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dirkprovin said:
Valv.Piti said:
jaylew said:
dirkprovin said:
Baldinger said:
The Danish commentator is practically blind during the race.

Broken collarbone for Cort it seems.

Damned shame; frankly a damned shame that he was being wasted in this race as a slave for Little Mr Showboat .... who despite his theatrics got his colours lowered quite clearly by Groenewegen.
What theatrics? I saw nothing theatrical. And he was clearly gaining on Groenewegen at the end.
I think you misunderstood, it has nothing to do with theatrics, rather Ewan stealing dirkprovin's girlfriend (or something similar).

Don't have a Missus, wise ****; they're too expensive so I'd probably thank him rather than pay out on him !! The theatrics refer to his ridiculous riding position which frankly IS pure theatrics rather than actually beneficial to his sprint. Just think he's a stupendous crit rider but goddam limited otherwise ...... and my reaction is largely due to the ridiculous "over boosting" of him by the AUS cycling media

How do you know that?
 
Kruijswijk DNS tomorrow.

Lotto wants to take it safe and lets him rest. I think he is not going to have a good Giro. He needed that hill stage to get some intensity in, like last year. I think it'll be like Vuelta last year. Crash is too much and will be in shape too late this Giro.
 
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Ricco' said:
DNS because of the crash or was it already planned? If so, a bit of a dumb move to send him all the way to Great Britain (narrow roads, possible bad weather, crashes) for two flat days. Well, even for the whole race tbh.
99% not planned. Absolutely no point to race this race if not for stage 3 for a Giro GC-contender.

Oh well, this sucks. I really do hope he will be okay, this can't be a case of Kruijswijk peaking too late, Nibali being past it, Sky getting bad BBQ etc. in the Giro, then Ill be sad. On the other hand, Kruijswijk losing a few minutes or 5 wouldn't be too bad for the overall race going into the last week.
 
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Valv.Piti said:
Ricco' said:
DNS because of the crash or was it already planned? If so, a bit of a dumb move to send him all the way to Great Britain (narrow roads, possible bad weather, crashes) for two flat days. Well, even for the whole race tbh.
99% not planned. Absolutely no point to race this race if not for stage 3 for a Giro GC-contender.

Oh well, this sucks. I really do hope he will be okay, this can't be a case of Kruijswijk peaking too late, Nibali being past it, Sky getting bad BBQ etc. in the Giro, then Ill be sad. On the other hand, Kruijswijk losing a few minutes or 5 wouldn't be too bad for the overall race going into the last week.
Kruijswijk not reaching the form of last year would be bad for the overall race. If it's like 2015 all over again he'll just kind of be there, make a few attacks that don't stick, get dropped at some point and get another top 10 without a stage win.

Anyone know what went wrong with his Vuelta prep last year anyway?