Tour de Yorkshire 28/04/17 - 30/04/17 2.1

[Valv.Piti]

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The Danish commentator is practically blind during the race.

Broken collarbone for Cort it seems.

Damned shame; frankly a damned shame that he was being wasted in this race as a slave for Little Mr Showboat .... who despite his theatrics got his colours lowered quite clearly by Groenewegen.

What theatrics? I saw nothing theatrical. And he was clearly gaining on Groenewegen at the end.

I think you misunderstood, it has nothing to do with theatrics, rather Ewan stealing dirkprovin's girlfriend (or something similar).

 

[dirkprovin]

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The Danish commentator is practically blind during the race.

Broken collarbone for Cort it seems.

Damned shame; frankly a damned shame that he was being wasted in this race as a slave for Little Mr Showboat .... who despite his theatrics got his colours lowered quite clearly by Groenewegen.

What theatrics? I saw nothing theatrical. And he was clearly gaining on Groenewegen at the end.

I think you misunderstood, it has nothing to do with theatrics, rather Ewan stealing dirkprovin's girlfriend (or something similar).

Don't have a Missus, wise arse; they're too expensive so I'd probably thank him rather than pay out on him !! The theatrics refer to his ridiculous riding position which frankly IS pure theatrics rather than actually beneficial to his sprint. Just think he's a stupendous crit rider but goddam limited otherwise ...... and my reaction is largely due to the ridiculous "over boosting" of him by the AUS cycling media

 

[Valv.Piti]

Yeah ok, good comeback. I just find the dislike, or even hate in this instance, a bit weird.

 

[dirkprovin]

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Yeah ok, good comeback. I just find the dislike, or even hate in this instance, a bit weird.

If you had to read the boosting, or have to listen to it over the past 3-4 years, from AUS cycling media THEN you'd probably understand my reaction more.

Don't hate him as a person although I dislike his showboating; just think he's an increasingly poor fit for ORS going forward. Classics based quick guys like Cort & most likely Edmondson ..... yes; a straight-out bunch kick man far less so. Whilst he'll always be able to pick up early season wins and against 2nd/3rd tier competition; come "peak season" I think he's more likely to come up short against the really top guys.

 

[Valv.Piti]

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Yeah ok, good comeback. I just find the dislike, or even hate in this instance, a bit weird.

If you had to read the boosting, or have to listen to it over the past 3-4 years, from AUS cycling media THEN you'd probably understand my reaction more.

Don't hate him as a person although I dislike his showboating; just think he's an increasingly poor fit for ORS going forward. Classics based quick guys like Cort & most likely Edmondson ..... yes; a straight-out bunch kick man far less so. Whilst he'll always be able to pick up early season wins and against 2nd/3rd tier competition; come "peak season" I think he's more likely to come up short against the really top guys.

Well yeah, I agree with the overall sentiments, but a 'house' sprinter is valuable to any team IMO to boost the victory total. I don't think you'd necessarily have to go out of your way to support him, either.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

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Kruijswijk honestly should be able to win stage 3 this year tho and win overall. Weak competition and super hard parcours, stage 3 that is

Last year he was beaten by Voeckler and Roche on a similar course. It's too explosive and it's not a high mountain. He won't win

 

[Valv.Piti]

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Kruijswijk honestly should be able to win stage 3 this year tho and win overall. Weak competition and super hard parcours, stage 3 that is

Last year he was beaten by Voeckler and Roche on a similar course. It's too explosive and it's not a high mountain. He won't win

Isnt this stage a fair amount harder? You are probably right, but I don't think he should be able to be dropped against these guys at least.

 

[DFA123]

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Kruijswijk honestly should be able to win stage 3 this year tho and win overall. Weak competition and super hard parcours, stage 3 that is

Last year he was beaten by Voeckler and Roche on a similar course. It's too explosive and it's not a high mountain. He won't win

Yep, he never wins even when it is a high mountain and isn't explosive, so it would be a big surprise if he did anything here. Even though the field is terrible.

 

[Red Rick]

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Kruijswijk honestly should be able to win stage 3 this year tho and win overall. Weak competition and super hard parcours, stage 3 that is

Last year he was beaten by Voeckler and Roche on a similar course. It's too explosive and it's not a high mountain. He won't win

Yep, he never wins even when it is a high mountain and isn't explosive, so it would be a big surprise if he did anything here. Even though the field is terrible.

In hindsight I can be incredibly butthurt about that MTT last year

 

[RedheadDane]

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The Danish commentator is practically blind during the race.

Broken collarbone for Cort it seems.

Damned shame; frankly a damned shame that he was being wasted in this race as a slave for Little Mr Showboat .... who despite his theatrics got his colours lowered quite clearly by Groenewegen.

What theatrics? I saw nothing theatrical. And he was clearly gaining on Groenewegen at the end.

I think you misunderstood, it has nothing to do with theatrics, rather Ewan stealing dirkprovin's girlfriend (or something similar).

Don't have a Missus, wise ****; they're too expensive so I'd probably thank him rather than pay out on him !! The theatrics refer to his ridiculous riding position which frankly IS pure theatrics rather than actually beneficial to his sprint. Just think he's a stupendous crit rider but goddam limited otherwise ...... and my reaction is largely due to the ridiculous "over boosting" of him by the AUS cycling media

How do you know that?

 

[tobydawq]

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How do you know that?

He doesn't because it isn't. Simple aerodynamics.

 

[Alexandre B.]

https://twitter.com/itvcycling/status/858350856084885504
Bouhanni destroyed everyone.

Impressive "sprint" (or "attack"?) by Hivert.

 

[yaco]

Excellent win by Bouhanni who is the most over-paid rider in the peleton - He needs to win at least one stage at the TDF to get somewhere near market value.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Kruijswijk DNS tomorrow.

Lotto wants to take it safe and lets him rest. I think he is not going to have a good Giro. He needed that hill stage to get some intensity in, like last year. I think it'll be like Vuelta last year. Crash is too much and will be in shape too late this Giro.

 

[Ricco']

DNS because of the crash or was it already planned? If so, a bit of a dumb move to send him all the way to Great Britain (narrow roads, possible bad weather, crashes) for two flat days. Well, even for the whole race tbh.

 

[Alexandre B.]

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Excellent win by Bouhanni who is the most over-paid rider in the peleton - He needs to win at least one stage at the TDF to get somewhere near market value.

Over-paid I don't know, but he's undoubtedly the pinnacle of Cofidis sporting and marketing strategy and probably the best PCT rider at the moment.

 

[armchairclimber]

Shibden Wall here we come.

 

[Valv.Piti]

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DNS because of the crash or was it already planned? If so, a bit of a dumb move to send him all the way to Great Britain (narrow roads, possible bad weather, crashes) for two flat days. Well, even for the whole race tbh.

99% not planned. Absolutely no point to race this race if not for stage 3 for a Giro GC-contender.

Oh well, this sucks. I really do hope he will be okay, this can't be a case of Kruijswijk peaking too late, Nibali being past it, Sky getting bad BBQ etc. in the Giro, then Ill be sad. On the other hand, Kruijswijk losing a few minutes or 5 wouldn't be too bad for the overall race going into the last week.

 

[Red Rick]

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DNS because of the crash or was it already planned? If so, a bit of a dumb move to send him all the way to Great Britain (narrow roads, possible bad weather, crashes) for two flat days. Well, even for the whole race tbh.

99% not planned. Absolutely no point to race this race if not for stage 3 for a Giro GC-contender.

Oh well, this sucks. I really do hope he will be okay, this can't be a case of Kruijswijk peaking too late, Nibali being past it, Sky getting bad BBQ etc. in the Giro, then Ill be sad. On the other hand, Kruijswijk losing a few minutes or 5 wouldn't be too bad for the overall race going into the last week.

Kruijswijk not reaching the form of last year would be bad for the overall race. If it's like 2015 all over again he'll just kind of be there, make a few attacks that don't stick, get dropped at some point and get another top 10 without a stage win.

Anyone know what went wrong with his Vuelta prep last year anyway?

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

He crashed in the prep as well. Had too little time left to prepare properly.

edit: crashed or got sick, there was at least something delayed

 

[Valv.Piti]

Yes it would, but in my scenario Kruijswijk reached top form by week 3. Just trying to look positive at things.

 

[deValtos]

Bah, I decided to finally sign up to ITV just so I could see the peloton ride up Shibden. Hopefully it is worth it.

 

[armchairclimber]

Huuuuuuge crowds.

 

[Scarponi]

I'm liking the hype about this stage, I'll probably watch it

 

[the asian]

Is it too difficult for Hivert?