Tour Match Up: Gesink v Van Den Broeck

[Parrulo]

one can hope. as it stands andy could run away with it. he might even tow his brother with him

what a dream start for leopard

atm i can only see basso putting up a real fight in the mountains

 

[The Hitch]

What were you reading? Or did you have something in your eyes while reading??

I was reading someone who I thougt might know something about Gesinks wellbeing.

Frans Maassen Rabo DS: Gesink, Barredo and Garate fell. Gesink is worst, but he only seems to have cuts and bruises, nothing serious. Gesink has no problems on the bike. Maassen expects hell in the final part of the stage

Also

just heard his comments.. some bruises, scratches and a sore back.. they wont be taking him to a hospital..

"sigh" of relief

tho now we have the great excuse whenever Gesink fails it's because of back problems or other problems with the fall

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

I was reading someone who I thougt might know something about Gesinks wellbeing.




Also

most of those comments were from the day it happend.
The back problems were more apparent the day after.

Many quotes and comments have been posted regarding his injuries, I suppose you have selective reading

 

[The Hitch]

most of those comments were from the day it happend.
The back problems were more apparent the day after.

Many quotes and comments have been posted regarding his injuries, I suppose you have selective reading

Ive read very little of this forum in the last few weeks and nothing outside of it.
This has been the first stage ive actually seen of this years Tour.

I assmued that the bruising on his back caused him to lose some time in a couple of stages after but that with the first mountain coming a week later, he would be fine.

What is the problem then?

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

Ive read very little of this forum in the last few weeks and nothing outside of it.
This has been the first stage ive actually seen of this years Tour.

I assmued that the bruising on his back caused him to lose some time in a couple of stages after but that with the first mountain coming a week later, he would be fine.

What is the problem then?

I Think doubt still surrounds him, in particular that he can reach his best now. The last few days would have been very energy zapping for him also, as is generally the case with injuries.

He might be able to reach acceptable form, and hang on with the likes of cadel etc. But there were hopes he would bring a new level this year, his prep seemingly went very well with the training, and it is a shame that this injury will likely affect his overall performace.

 

[erader]

I Think doubt still surrounds him, in particular that he can reach his best now. The last few days would have been very energy zapping for him also, as is generally the case with injuries.

He might be able to reach acceptable form, and hang on with the likes of cadel etc. But there were hopes he would bring a new level this year, his prep seemingly went very well with the training, and it is a shame that this injury will likely affect his overall performace.[/QUOTE]

a likeable guy but he finds a way to disappoint every year. at least he's still young enough to wear the white jersey.

erader

 

[Spine Concept]

I take it you are talking about me. This doesn't change anything though. Chances of crashing or losing time by getting held up by a crash are a lot bigger if you ride further back. It's as simple as that and this goes for everyone, not just JVDB or Gesink. It however does not mean you can't crash when riding in the front. This was the only point i was making. There also doesn't seem to be any footage about the actual crash, so we can't really comment on that.

Anyway, JVDB won't be riding the Vuelta, the injuries are too severe. He won't be riding for 2 months according to the team doctor, eliminating all hope to ride the Vuelta.

Maybe he should reconsider riding only the TdF next time.

Soooo... anybody up for a topic TGBM vs Kevin De Weert?

It was actually directed at someone else, if you go back a couple of pages you can see for yourself.
I never contested the notion that it wouldn't be less risky to ride in front as opposed to some other place in the peloton. My contention is that it all comes down to luck in the end, it doesn't matter where you ride or - more ludicrously - which rider you are. Riding in front will minimize the risk but it is never nullified. Today proved that, though one would think that's self-evident.

I believe in a saying that goes like this: ''It's not about if you have luck, but whén you have it.'' It could all take a turn for the worst in a split second, VDB2 is a case in point, which is why I used him to illustrate my take on it.

 

[auscyclefan94]

Ive read very little of this forum in the last few weeks and nothing outside of it.
This has been the first stage ive actually seen of this years Tour.

I assmued that the bruising on his back caused him to lose some time in a couple of stages after but that with the first mountain coming a week later, he would be fine.

What is the problem then?

Well we don't know the exact extent of his injuries and saying that the two stages of the rest day will give him time to recover isn't necessarily the case. It still will be tough for him in the Alps and Pyrenees but he is showing a lot of courage.

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

Well we don't know the exact extent of his injuries and saying that the two stages of the rest day will give him time to recover isn't necessarily the case. It still will be tough for him in the Alps and Pyrenees but he is showing a lot of courage.

more or less yes.
I can't see him hitting his peak anymore.

 

[python]

i just read that the race commissars fined robert 100 swiss francs yesterday for what could be translated as 'inappropriate actions' ?

i perused de telegraaf and rabosport for more details- nothing.. a zilch in bobby's blog as well.

does anyone know the details

 

[greenedge]

Can't believe we did not have an option for them both crashing out.

 

[Moondance]

Jurgen Van Den Broeck will stay in intensive care for two or three days as he recovers from his injuries after crashing out on a descent during Sunday’s ninth stage to Saint Flour.

The Omega Pharma-Lotto team leader fractured three ribs, his shoulder blade and also suffered from a collapsed lung. He initially tried to continue in the race but the pain was too great and doctors feared he had suffered a ruptured spleen or liver damage.

"Jurgen needs to stay two or three more days in intensive care," team doctor Els Lemmens told Belgian television. “We have to make sure that his breathing problems don’t get any worse. We were worried about his abdominal pain because we feared a ruptured spleen or liver but that has turned out not to be the case. Everything is under control now."

Doesn't seem likely that he'll recover in time for the Vuelta if you look at the laundry list of injuries.

EDIT: Apparently Sergeant has already said that given the extent of the injuries the Vuelta is out of the question for Jurgen

 

[Moondance]

i just read that the race commissars fined robert 100 swiss francs yesterday for what could be translated as 'inappropriate actions' ?

i perused de telegraaf and rabosport for more details- nothing.. a zilch in bobby's blog as well.

does anyone know the details

Probably interrupting Lulu's post-win interview.

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

gesink went for a little ride and is now resting.
I have no idea if he is feeling better today or not.

 

[Moondance]

gesink went for a little ride and is now resting.
I have no idea if he is feeling better today or not.

This was in his Televaag column this morning:

Nu volgt de rustdag. Die komt als geroepen. Beter kan niet. Ik heb stiekem de hoop dat ik er nu doorheen ben gekomen. Dat ik vanaf nu weer positief verder de Tour kan inkijken.

Translation: Now we have the rest day. Couldn't come at a better time. I secretly hope that the worst is now behind me. Now I can approach the Tour with a positive frame of mind again.



This is obviously written by someone from the Rabobank press department, but probably does reflect his actual situation. I imagine that's the closest we'll get today to knowing what's up with him.

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

This was in his Televaag column this morning:


Translation: Now we have the rest day. Couldn't come at a better time. I secretly hope that the worst is now behind me. Now I can approach the Tour with a positive frame of mind again.



This is obviously written by someone from the Rabobank press department, but probably does reflect his actual situation. I imagine that's the closest we'll get today to knowing what's up with him.

yeah.. I just want info dammit

stage 12 will paint a picture for us.

 

[theyoungest]

This is obviously written by someone from the Rabobank press department, but probably does reflect his actual situation. I imagine that's the closest we'll get today to knowing what's up with him.

I think Gesink calls ghostwriter Kerckhoffs for this. So it's more or less his own words.

 

[Moondance]

I think Gesink calls ghostwriter Kerckhoffs for this. So it's more or less his own words.

Really, Kerckhoffs? This column especially was a rather poor one in terms of quality of writing, which I wouldn't associate with a good sportswriter like Raymond. On the other hand, Kerckhoffs is having to run around like a mad man, and mash out several thousand words per day, so the poor quality could just be stress and workload related, I guess.

 

[Task_Force]

http://now.rabosport.nl/user/rabosport/view/rss/3927

interview with gesink on the restday.. pretty much all old news about how he felt these last days.. He said it felt like riding a finale for the entire race, and how they went from almost no morale to a "party" after LuLu his win.

He's also looking forward to the mountains.. good sign imo..

 

[theyoungest]

Really, Kerckhoffs? This column especially was a rather poor one in terms of quality of writing, which I wouldn't associate with a good sportswriter like Raymond. On the other hand, Kerckhoffs is having to run around like a mad man, and mash out several thousand words per day, so the poor quality could just be stress and workload related, I guess.

Gesink himself is a better writer than Kerckhoffs, actually. I enjoy his non-ghostwritten columns much more.

 

[Cobblestones]

Can't believe we did not have an option for them both crashing out.

We did, it's called TGBM.

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

Lol gesink fined 100 swiss franc for hugging lls during his official interview

 

[the student]

lol whats the reason for that o well, he probably wont bother.

 

[Spine Concept]

Lol gesink fined 100 swiss franc for hugging lls during his official interview

According to wielerflits it was because he hurled a bottle too close to a motorcycle. Either way it's pretty *** if you ask me, I guess rules are rules.

 

[The Hitch]

100 franks pfff.

Yet again ASO shows favorability to Gesink.

Disqualify him from the race!!!