Tour of Denmark 2025 (12/8 - 16/8)

[nilfen]

Beautiful part of Denmark and great landscape for cycling!

 

[Boehmand]

Alpecin trying a crosswind attack with 145K to go, but the wind wasn't strong enough.

 

[Boehmand]

The vegetation is moving, there is wind - but so far they have constantly been riding in fairly covered terrain, lot's of trees and hedges.

If they hit an open patch this could get interesting.

 

[E_F_]

It's really nice that they've gotten so much better at using small, lumpy, twisty roads in this race!

 

[Danskebjerge]

No signs of crosswind attacks. Lidl-Trek controlling and focusing on Vejle.

 

[Boehmand]

I just noticed that they are riding two different hills today, both called the exact same thing (Golfbakken = The Golf Hill") in different parts of the country

 

[Danskebjerge]

Ha ha, Poul Kjøller.

 

[Velolover2]

I just noticed that they are riding two different hills today, both called the exact same thing (Golfbakken = The Golf Hill") in different parts of the country

True! Both are leading up to a golf course. With the "Vejle" climb being the tougher of the two.

Golfbakken, first climb on the route.

Golfbakken, second climb on the route.

 

[Danskebjerge]

True! Both are leading up to a golf course. With the "Vejle" climb being the tougher of the two.

Golfbakken, first climb on the route.

Golfbakken, second climb on the route.

An oddity with both those climbs in one stage. Having said that, this type of names is not my cup of tea at all. Too provincial. Why not just say "Bjergevej" and "Ibækvej". Besides, nicknames for climbs instead of geographical references are bad when things change. Like the so-called "Blue Horse" climb near Vejle. The firm "Blue Horse" has moved.

 

[Boehmand]

They are about to hit the old bridge to Jutland, for those that want to watch it

After the bridge they turn north, which means the western wind comes into play.

 

[Boehmand]

The old bridge they are on now is dedicated to trains, bicycles and pedestrians BTW - no cars are allowed on it on normal days - they go across the newer bridge - so all the tarmac you see on the bridge is everyday bike lanes.

The old bridge is from 1935, the newer one from 1970.

(115K to go for those watching the stage later)

 

[Velolover2]

They are about to hit the old bridge to Jutland, for those that want to watch it

After the bridge they turn north, which means the western wind comes into play.

That bridge would do well in a time trial if possible. Highlighting the aerodynamics of the riders.

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

A shame Ricky Enø Jørgensen and Torkil Veyhe aren't here to win the last stages for Greenland and the Faroe Islands.

If Finland is not part of Scandinavia (and I understand the geographical definition whereby it is not, but don't really understand how Denmark claims to be on that peninsula), then Greenland and the Faroes certainly aren't.

 

[Boehmand]

That bridge would do well in a time trial if possible. Highlighting the aerodynamics of the riders.

It's only 1.1K long, so the effects would be quite small - unless I misunderstand you and you mean in terms of watchability?

 

[Boehmand]

If Finland is not part of Scandinavia (and I understand the geographical definition whereby it is not, but don't really understand how Denmark claims to be on that peninsula), then Greenland and the Faroes certainly aren't.

We're part of Scandinavia because we used to own it - the reason is historical not geographic

 

[Velolover2]

It's only 1.1K long, so the effects would be quite small - unless I misunderstand you and you mean in terms of watchability?

I want a time trial that goes from Middelfart to Fredericia. It's possible to keep it under 15 km.

Somewhat flat except the road leading up to the bridge.

 

[Danskebjerge]

If Finland is not part of Scandinavia (and I understand the geographical definition whereby it is not, but don't really understand how Denmark claims to be on that peninsula), then Greenland and the Faroes certainly aren't.

The latter have a governmental connection to Denmark and are thus closer connected to Denmark than Finland is. The southern part of the Scandinavian peninsula was Danish until the 17th century. Currently there is no direct geographical connection that explains the status of Denmark as Scandinavian.

 

[E_F_]

If Finland is not part of Scandinavia (and I understand the geographical definition whereby it is not, but don't really understand how Denmark claims to be on that peninsula), then Greenland and the Faroes certainly aren't.

Scandinavia is not the same as the Scandinavian Peninsula. I wouldn't include the Insular North Germanic-speaking countries in Scandinavia - though it would be practical to have an easy way to refer to all North Germanic-speaking countries... Nordic Countries also includes Finland, of course.

 

[Netserk]

If Finland is not part of Scandinavia (and I understand the geographical definition whereby it is not, but don't really understand how Denmark claims to be on that peninsula), then Greenland and the Faroes certainly aren't.

Inhabitants of Als and North Jutlandic Island also consider themselves Jutes, despite not being part of the peninsula. Some things are not understood if only understood narrowly.

 

[Boehmand]

Scandinavia is not the same as the Scandinavian Peninsula. I wouldn't include the Insular North Germanic-speaking countries in Scandinavia - though it would be practical to have an easy way to refer to all North Germanic-speaking countries... Nordic Countries also includes Finland, of course.

To confuse it even more, an entirely 3rd definition is that many in politics speak of the "NB8 countries" (Nordic-Baltic 8), which is Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Finland, Iceland, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania

 

[E_F_]

To confuse it even more, an entirely 3rd definition is that many in politics speak of the "NB8 countries" (Nordic-Baltic 8), which is Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Finland, Iceland, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania

Yeah, and linguistically Estonia isn't Baltic, but rather Finnic.

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

The latter have a governmental connection to Denmark and are thus closer connected to Denmark than Finland is.

I'm aware of that: but it doesn't make them Scandinavian any more than a Frenchman from Tahiti or Guyana is western European.

And it means that there is, as far as the UCI is concerned and therefore cycling records, no such thing as a Faroese of Greenlandic cyclist.

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

Yeah, and linguistically Estonia isn't Baltic, but rather Finnic.

And for similar reasons, Finland's inclusion as 'Nordic' is at best dubious.

 

[Netserk]

I'm aware of that: but it doesn't make them Scandinavian any more than a Frenchman from Tahiti or Guyana is western European.

And it means that there is, as far as the UCI is concerned and therefore cycling records, no such thing as a Faroese of Greenlandic cyclist.

Are you sure?

www.uec.ch/en/federation/faroese-cycling-federation-uec-associated-member/53

 

[E_F_]

Danish tv goes to an interview right as something happens...