Tour of Qatar - Stage 4: West Bay Lagoon → Al Kharaitiyat 154 km

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Captain_Cavman said:
...and I'll be looking to see whether Azad University Iran can maintain their CQ advantage over BMC.

that gave me a good laugh...thanks!!
 
Jun 16, 2009
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Reverend_T_Preedy said:
Christ! What's up with you? The cat died or something?

I mearly picked on BMC as a team similar to Sky in that they don't have a sprinter who can beat the likes of Renshaw, Boonen, Haussler etc. Whereas Sky (and Rabobank to be fair) have given it a go, particularly trying something different today, BMC have had some riders at the front but haven't contributed anything to the race.

I have nothing against BMC as a team, just saying it as I see it that's all.

Different?

Stage 1: had Burghardt was in the front group. Not much else BMC could of done there!

Stage 2: Quinziato was in a break that could of stayed away and was looking like it at one point.

Stage 3: Kristoff was in the breakaway and Brughardt was in the main split of 18

Stage 4: 10th for van avermaet. Had Burghardt and Greg van Avermaet in the split and was contributing to the high pace on the front like Sky was.

So please don't give me that rubbish thank you very much!
 
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Christ AFC are you on your period or something. I know its late over there, maybe you need to go to sleep :D Stop overreacting to everything.
 
Jan 11, 2010
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auscyclefan94 said:
Different?

Stage 1: had Burghardt was in the front group. Not much else BMC could of done there!

Stage 2: Quinziato was in a break that could of stayed away and was looking like it at one point.

Stage 3: Kristoff was in the breakaway and Brughardt was in the main split of 18

Stage 4: 10th for van avermaet. Had Burghardt and Greg van Avermaet in the split and was contributing to the high pace on the front like Sky was.

So please don't give me that rubbish thank you very much!
They'll be glad someone noticed ;)
 
Jun 16, 2009
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TeamSkyFans said:
Christ AFC are you on your period or something. I know its late over there, maybe you need to go to sleep :D Stop overreacting to everything.

I might be overreacting but maybe reverend _t _peddy can actually make some proper observations of the race
 
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auscyclefan94 said:
Different?

Stage 1: had Burghardt was in the front group. Not much else BMC could of done there!

Stage 2: Quinziato was in a break that could of stayed away and was looking like it at one point.

Stage 3: Kristoff was in the breakaway and Brughardt was in the main split of 18

Stage 4: 10th for van avermaet. Had Burghardt and Greg van Avermaet in the split and was contributing to the high pace on the front like Sky was.

So please don't give me that rubbish thank you very much!

Have I hit a nerve there?

You have got what I'm trying to say wrong. Fair play to Burghardt for making the top 18. If that's what you see as success for BMC then good on them.

I was just pointing out that Sky and Rabobank have tried something different to win a stage when they haven't had any sprinters. Unfortunately it appears that BMC have been content to role over the line.

Call me an old romantic but I just like to see riders and teams trying to win.
 
Mar 11, 2009
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I think all the solar radiation pouring through the hole in the ozone layer has addled ACF's brain.

Tomorrow's stage is right along the coast again, so if there is any wind we'll probably see the same pattern of a gradual selection down to 20/30 in-form classics guys and then a sprint from a small bunch.
 
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auscyclefan94 said:
I might be overreacting but maybe reverend _t _peddy can actually make some proper observations of the race
Come on, BMC haven't really been overly exciting to watch in this Tour of Qatar. And they don't make a very strong impression, collectively.
 
Jun 16, 2009
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Reverend_T_Preedy said:
Have I hit a nerve there?

You have got what I'm trying to say wrong. Fair play to Burghardt for making the top 18. If that's what you see as success for BMC then good on them.

I was just pointing out that Sky and Rabobank have tried something different to win a stage when they haven't had any sprinters. Unfortunately it appears that BMC have been content to role over the line.

Call me an old romantic but I just like to see riders and teams trying to win.

So you've never ehard of Theo Bos or Graeme Brown? You are very much mis informed so I am not going to bother with you.
 
May 9, 2010
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So what does the GC look like now? Renshaw must be the new leader.. Right?

Edit: incidently typed 'CQ' instead og 'GC' :D
 
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LEOPARD TREK still needs to work on their leadout train, but I guess that's mostly what they're in Qatar for anyways. Shame Cancellara wasn't there anymore, with him in the train they might have had a better chance. I was impressed with Vigano but Weylandt went out too early. I think he had been in the break earlier though, so he might have been tired from that.

Still Bennati is doing consistently well, which is a good sign. He has the chance to finish on the podium and I think he earned it, since he finished between 2nd and 4th in every sprint finish!
 
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auscyclefan94 said:
So you've never ehard of Theo Bos or Graeme Brown? You are very much mis informed so I am not going to bother with you.
I think the Reverend refers to the days when these gentlemen don't make the split, like today. Tjallingii and Boom just make the best of it.
 
Jun 16, 2009
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theyoungest said:
Come on, BMC haven't really been overly exciting to watch in this Tour of Qatar. And they don't make a very strong impression, collectively.

Many other teams haven't either! You and others were content with Vacansoleil being invited to the tour de france to just be a breakaway team. BMC has done that so far this season as they don't have a big sprinter and yet people still bag them. Some of the posters have double standards.
 
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theyoungest said:
They'll be glad someone noticed ;)

those were some epic moments of cycling which later on may come to mind in one go with thngs like Milrams first place in the team classification of stage 11 at le tour 2010 :p
 
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theyoungest said:
I think the Reverend refers to the days when these gentlemen don't make the split, like today. Tjallingii and Boom just make the best of it.

Make the best of it? Oh well good for them! I don't see much difference between Sky'ss BMC's or Rabobank's performances at the tour of qatar to be honest. BMC ahve actually had riders in all splits and in 3 out of the 4 break aways. Good night!
 
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For some reason, my Eurosport 2 EPG is has been stuck on news for 800 minutes, so I have nil recording.
Will watch those closing 6kms later, as I'm sure they will tell most of the story.

ACF was first onto my very small ignore list. Might be an idea if a few followed suit.
Makes for less cockeyed and faster reviewing.
 
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auscyclefan94 said:
Make the best of it? Oh well good for them! I don't see much difference between Sky'ss BMC's or Rabobank's performances at the tour of qatar to be honest. BMC ahve actually had riders in all splits and in 3 out of the 4 break aways. Good night!
Rabobank actually won a stage?
Plus Bos and Boom both top-5 in other stages?

LOL. :D You are so funny when you get angry and make mistakes like this.
 
Jan 18, 2010
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I dont reckon BMC have the legs at the moment to be fair, Sky seem to be going OK and looked like they wanted to blow the race apart by keeping to the opposite side of the road where the wind was coming from and going full bore.

Lots of distressed riders trying to hang on at the end..
 
Aug 18, 2009
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Sort of surprised be Mark Renshaw's win. I considered him to be the most overrated underrated rider, or something. Many people say "best leadout in the world-underrated as a sprinter-deserves a win", but I just reckoned he was a very good leadout man because he's technically good, but lacks acceleration compared to others. I don't know if it's the start of anything, but it's a nice win for him.
 
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taiwan said:
Sort of surprised be Mark Renshaw's win. I considered him to be the most overrated underrated rider, or something. Many people say "best leadout in the world-underrated as a sprinter-deserves a win", but I just reckoned he was a very good leadout man because he's technically good, but lacks acceleration compared to others. I don't know if it's the start of anything, but it's a significant win for him.

To be fair the main reason he lacks the acceleration of the top sprinters is because he has been training for leadouts for the last 2-3 years not top end speed. If he actually trained like a sprinter as opposed to a leadout he'd be one of the best
 
Aug 18, 2009
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woodie said:
To be fair the main reason he lacks the acceleration of the top sprinters is because he has been training for leadouts for the last 2-3 years not top end speed. If he actually trained like a sprinter as opposed to a leadout he'd be one of the best

I don't really know how you can tell. He's pretty much always been a leadout man, but had some opportunities of his own (he performed that role for Thor Hushovd, right? Don't know about his time at FDJ.) and in terms of CQ points or victories he doesn't look like someone who's been held back artificially.
 
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auscyclefan94 said:
Make the best of it? Oh well good for them! I don't see much difference between Sky'ss BMC's or Rabobank's performances at the tour of qatar to be honest. BMC ahve actually had riders in all splits and in 3 out of the 4 break aways. Good night!

Clearly you're just a deluded BMC fanboy.

I think the fact you have to point out how BMC have done really tells you all you need to know about them........