Transfers and Rumours 2010 > 2011

[Michielveedeebee]

nor would quickstep, they could never pay him, lefevre just always names himself as a candidate that lying pile of horse**** and radioshack quits after 2011

Lefevere has found a Chec richdude that will increase next year's budget with a couple of millions... he can pay him

 

[Libertine Seguros]

I'd still expect him to come straight back with Unzué. Abarca Sports have stuck by him and even served as character references in his case. He's just testing the waters because he knows that the ban hurts his market value, so he's checking the market to see if he can recoup a bit of those lost earnings from the 19 months he's spending on the shelf by driving his price up from where it would have been.

Michiel - Vally was on €4m or thereabouts with Caisse. It'll take more than "a couple" of million to pay him, I expect.

 

[Michielveedeebee]

I'd still expect him to come straight back with Unzué. Abarca Sports have stuck by him and even served as character references in his case. He's just testing the waters because he knows that the ban hurts his market value, so he's checking the market to see if he can recoup a bit of those lost earnings from the 19 months he's spending on the shelf by driving his price up from where it would have been.

Michiel - Vally was on €4m or thereabouts with Caisse. It'll take more than "a couple" of million to pay him, I expect.

4mil never knew it was that much! I expected something around 2 million a year...
but as he will return from suspension, shouldn't his wages be lower than before the suspension ?

 

[Susan Westemeyer]

Valverde to ride for Rabobank, QuickStep or RadioShack



Fuente: (http://www.esciclismo.com)

I see absolutely nothing about Valverde at this link......

Susan

 

[Biarnes72]

Yesterday it was the April fool day in Spain ... so be carefull

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

I had this feeling when he said in the interview few days ago

"Valverde raced for six seasons for the team of Eusebio Unzue, and said he would be grateful to return to the new Team Movistar, but said he would see what offers would come."

But honestly, I can't see him riding for a team other than Unzue's.

this.

no place for him because of the colombians and other south americans that will be representing 80% of movistar within 2 years.

yep, I'm sure the mighty colombians will keep valv. out.

 

[DAOTEC]

I see absolutely nothing about Valverde at this link...... Susan

2nd part:Esa decisión era esperada, pues los navarros querrían contarcon los sericios de un gran vueltómano, y no podría afrontar la alta ficha delcorredor murciano unida a la de esta posible incorporación para la siguientetemporada. A esto se une el deseo de Valverde de competir a pleno rendimientoen la temporada de clásicas, y dejar de lado su papel como vueltómano al que seveía obligado a someterse, dada la planificación del calendario que hacía Eusebio Unzué.

Los equipo ya nombrados querrían reforzar su temporada declásicas además de su 9 en el Tour de Francia, donde el murciano se ve conposibilidades de hacer podio

 

[Susan Westemeyer]

How about an exact link for that Valverde story?

And the SBS story said that Veranda Willems wanted to sign a Belgian rider from Pegasus, and Traksel is Dutch.......

Susan

 

[DAOTEC]

A no go for Traksel: http://www.wielerland.nl/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=14429&Itemid=36

 

[DAOTEC]

3 more for Vacansoleil

Wouter Mol winner of the Tour de Qatar en 2010 and Italians Santo Anzà (Flaminia) frontrunner in the Giro Lombardía and Brixia Tour winner in 2008, and 24-year-old Marcello Pavarin (Colnago) to ride for Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team which has now 28 riders.

 

[Dutchsmurf]

http://www.wielerland.nl/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=14401&Itemid=36

That link is a repost of the SBS story, guessing it might be Traksel. Since there don't seem to be any Belgium riders left, it might be a good guess tho. But it is nothing more than a guess.

 

[Michele]

Auerelien Passeron will ride next year (or just summer?) for Geumsan Ginseng.

 

[nobilis]

no place for him because of the colombians and other south americans that will be representing 80% of movistar within 2 years.

I think you're over-exaggerating here. It's a Spanish "project" after all, that of course has extensions in Latin America due to the company's interests there but i can't see a rider from there with the caliber of Valverde developing within 1 or 2 years

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

I think you're over-exaggerating here. It's a Spanish "project" after all, that of course has extensions in Latin America due to the company's interests there but i can't see a rider from there with the caliber of Valverde developing within 1 or 2 years

they are trying to do anything to get henao, henao is a far bigger prospect even than valverde was/is and one without a dopingpast

henao has already said he has offers from sky as well for 2012

 

[Libertine Seguros]

But the thing is, Henao is still a prospect, whereas Valverde is something proven. I think they'd like to have both, to be honest.

 

[nobilis]

they are trying to do anything to get henao, henao is a far bigger prospect even than valverde was/is and one without a dopingpast

henao has already said he has offers from sky as well for 2012

I know that Henao is one of the biggest cycling prospects and that not had been given the chance to shine on the European continent yet, but even after accounting for that, the palmares of Valverde when he was his age now is beyond comparison. (3rd overall in the vuelta with 2 stage wins, 2nd in the Worlds, stage win at Pais Vasco, etc) at only 23.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

But the thing is, Henao is still a prospect, whereas Valverde is something proven. I think they'd like to have both, to be honest.

with valverde in a team there can only be one leader and that is valverde. no room for anyone else as we've seen in the last years with caisse. so it's either valverde and no one else, or someone else, younger, cheaper, with more future.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

I know that Henao is one of the biggest cycling prospects and that not had been given the chance to shine on the European continent yet, but even after accounting for that, the palmares of Valverde when he was his age now is beyond comparison. (3rd overall in the vuelta with 2 stage wins, 2nd in the Worlds, stage win at Pais Vasco, etc) at only 23.

valverde was until his shoelaces full of epo when he had those results with kelme. since 2006 (puerto) he became considerbally less strong in the mountains and became a very cowardly, un agressive rider that needed a w hole team to help him win sprints of smaller groups. his vuelta win was the most coordinated gt win since that of moser in the giro in 1984. in that vuelta they made sure no more than 2 mountainstages after each other, never more than 2 big mountains in one stage and short enough itt's for valverde.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

So you molly-coddle Henao a bit, give him the Giro to aim at, since he's a better GC bet than Arroyo, and do all those stage races while Valverde's aiming at the Ardennes. Then you give Henao the middle bit of the season off before building him back up again for September. Valverde rides the Tour as leader; it's the GT least suited to Henao so that's no problem until Henao's a bit older anyway, and then and only then do you have a problem if both want to target the Vuelta.

You make it sound like Valverde will want to ride every single race on earth. I know the likes of Joaquím Rodríguez didn't get the chances they deserved as a teammate to Valverde, but the likes of Joaquím Rodríguez were also more established than Henao, who may be better served in the lower-pressure situation of having an established team leader. Then, once Henao is in the position that he's a threat to Valverde, Valverde will be older and possibly more mature, or certainly easier to say goodbye to. Right now, with the palmarès he has, you'd be crazy to cast him aside so that you could pick somebody totally unproven in Europe without at least trying to work both of them together.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

in that vuelta they made sure no more than 2 mountainstages after each other, never more than 2 big mountains in one stage and short enough itt's for valverde.

Stage 12: MTF at Velefique
Stage 13: MTF at Sierra Nevada
Stage 14: MTF at Sierra de la Pandera.

 

[nobilis]

valverde was until his shoelaces full of epo when he had those results with kelme. since 2006 (puerto) he became considerbally less strong in the mountains and became a very cowardly, un agressive rider that needed a w hole team to help him win sprints of smaller groups. his vuelta win was the most coordinated gt win since that of moser in the giro in 1984. in that vuelta they made sure no more than 2 mountainstages after each other, never more than 2 big mountains in one stage and short enough itt's for valverde.

Maybe we're going off-topic here, but i don't think Valverde became less aggressive after 2006 and that he needed a whole team to win small bunch sprints, just for example look at how he won the Brest-Plumelec stage of the 2008 tour. And if he did become less aggressive, you should not link that to doping only (Assuming that he was doping prior to 2006). With age and experience, riders style of riding can change, you become more conservative in your efforts and smarter in riding.
As for the Vuelta win, Evans, his main rival was no match to him in the mountain stages of any type.

 

[craig1985]

Sorry to go OT, but whatever happened to Víctor Hugo Peña?

 

[ingsve]

Sorry to go OT, but whatever happened to Víctor Hugo Peña?

After Unibet disappeared he went to Rock Racing and is now with Colmbia es Pasion where he will stay for next year as well.

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

they are trying to do anything to get henao, henao is a far bigger prospect even than valverde was/is and one without a dopingpast

henao has already said he has offers from sky as well for 2012

one is an established and one of the most competitive riders in the peleton, whilst the other is unproven in europe. Surely they will follow your brilliant logic

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

So you molly-coddle Henao a bit, give him the Giro to aim at, since he's a better GC bet than Arroyo, and do all those stage races while Valverde's aiming at the Ardennes. Then you give Henao the middle bit of the season off before building him back up again for September. Valverde rides the Tour as leader; it's the GT least suited to Henao so that's no problem until Henao's a bit older anyway, and then and only then do you have a problem if both want to target the Vuelta.

You make it sound like Valverde will want to ride every single race on earth. I know the likes of Joaquím Rodríguez didn't get the chances they deserved as a teammate to Valverde, but the likes of Joaquím Rodríguez were also more established than Henao, who may be better served in the lower-pressure situation of having an established team leader. Then, once Henao is in the position that he's a threat to Valverde, Valverde will be older and possibly more mature, or certainly easier to say goodbye to. Right now, with the palmarès he has, you'd be crazy to cast him aside so that you could pick somebody totally unproven in Europe without at least trying to work both of them together.

valverde does want to ride every single race there is. he rides every pt stage race, like pais vasco, romandie, dauphinee/suisse and he always wants to wine very stage eh can. every race he rides whole team works for him, also all the classics, only race henao could be leader than would be giro, ok for first year but not for 2nd year and surly they won't sign valvcerde for 1 year.