Transfers and Rumours 2011 > 2012

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Kruijswijk: one pro win. A 9th spot in the Giro.

Gesink: 10 pro wins. 3 GT top-10s.

Yeah, my bet would also be on Kruijswijk to win something big

This is just hilarious indeed.

Even Gesinks worst top 10 was better than Kruijswijcks best. One bad Tour and people think Kruijswijk is better than Gesink? It's just wrong. Gesink was already a level above Kruijswijk when he was 3 years younger than Kruijswijk is now...

Kruijswijk is 24, that's 1, I repeat, 1 year younger. At the same age Gesink had already finished 3 GT's in the top 10, 6, 6 and 7, where in one he was actually battling for podium until a fall took him out. Kruijswijk has one, barely, top 10.
At that same age (last year), Gesink has already won Emilia twice, Montreal, stage in Suisse, stage in California, stage in Belgium Tour of Oman + 2 stages, and podiums in Tirreno, Pais Vasco and Pologne. Compared to 1 stage win in suisse and podium in Suisse form Kruijswijk.

How can you even DARE saying what you say?

 

[Metal earth]

apparently Gesink sucks now after the last Tour

Wow I knew Dutchies like to defend their own riders, but I didn't know it was this bad. I never said he was a bad rider, in fact I said he is an awesome rider. But I don't think he will ever win a grand tour or a big classic. Hell even Gesink himself has stated over and over again that he can't handle the big tempo changes on climbs and steep hills.
How many times have you seen him drop because of that? Countless times!

Remember this is just my opinion, I'm not discrediting Gesink or his victories but I do stand by my statements. But we will see what happens in the future, hopefully you can all tell me 'I told you so'

Oh and about Kruiswijk, yes I know Gesink has a better palmares and that has better results in training, but I have very high hopes for Kruiswijk. He is far more explosive in the big mountains. Do you see Gesink ever countering an attack by Contador. I don't think so...

 

[Metal earth]

This is just hilarious indeed.

Even Gesinks worst top 10 was better than Kruijswijcks best. One bad Tour and people think Kruijswijk is better than Gesink? It's just wrong. Gesink was already a level above Kruijswijk when he was 3 years younger than Kruijswijk is now...

Kruijswijk is 24, that's 1, I repeat, 1 year younger. At the same age Gesink had already finished 3 GT's in the top 10, 6, 6 and 7, where in one he was actually battling for podium until a fall took him out. Kruijswijk has one, barely, top 10.
At that same age (last year), Gesink has already won Emilia twice, Montreal, stage in Suisse, stage in California, stage in Belgium Tour of Oman + 2 stages, and podiums in Tirreno, Pais Vasco and Pologne. Compared to 1 stage win in suisse and podium in Suisse form Kruijswijk.

How can you even DARE saying what you say?

Haha how can I dare? I'm well aware of Gesink accomplishments as I've witnessed most of them happen. But for reasons already stated, I just think that Kruiswijk has more potential to win races even though Gesink is a better rider. Look at progress Kruiswijk made in one year! It's really not that crazy of a statement.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Do you see Gesink ever countering an attack by Contador. I don't think so...

Perhaps not, but then again I haven't yet seen Kruijswijk drop Valverde, Evans, Sánchez, Basso and Mosquera either.

 

[staubsauger]

That is true, I forgot about Brechel, too bad he hasn't had the chance to showcase much this year. My point is that they have one of the biggest budgets in pro cycling, but their squad isn't really that strong and broad. I wish they would go for the really big names ocassionally, just to relieve some of the pressure on the Dutch guys.

well at least in the past seasons the dutch boys have shown a much better performance (vuelta 09, giro 10/11) than the big guys in the tour (tdf 09,10,11)

 

[staubsauger]

This is just hilarious indeed.

Even Gesinks worst top 10 was better than Kruijswijcks best. One bad Tour and people think Kruijswijk is better than Gesink? It's just wrong. Gesink was already a level above Kruijswijk when he was 3 years younger than Kruijswijk is now...

Kruijswijk is 24, that's 1, I repeat, 1 year younger. At the same age Gesink had already finished 3 GT's in the top 10, 6, 6 and 7, where in one he was actually battling for podium until a fall took him out. Kruijswijk has one, barely, top 10.
At that same age (last year), Gesink has already won Emilia twice, Montreal, stage in Suisse, stage in California, stage in Belgium Tour of Oman + 2 stages, and podiums in Tirreno, Pais Vasco and Pologne. Compared to 1 stage win in suisse and podium in Suisse form Kruijswijk.

How can you even DARE saying what you say?

gesink was even fighting for the overall at la vuelta 09 wasn't he?

whatever, if kruijswijk is winning suisse next year (what might bei really possible in my opinion) and gesink decides to race the tour again instead of trying to win il giro or la vuelta - which are suited much more to him as a rider - he just have been right !

At least from a sight at his character it's a very very poor action from rob to not go to spain as he planned last year and fighting for the overall! I'm very dissapointed from rob in that matter

 

[El Pistolero]

Sebastien Rosseler will go to Garmin-Cervelo

 

[seniyajw]

I guess when Gilbert said the only contact I have with the team through my lawyers make more sense now - BMC does not care purchasing contracts - Thanks for the clarification

 

[Metal earth]

well at least in the past seasons the dutch boys have shown a much better performance (vuelta 09, giro 10/11) than the big guys in the tour (tdf 09,10,11)

Menchov third in the Tour last year and winning the Giro 2009, but yeah the Dutchies have shown a lot of promise. Anyway sorry for getting a bit off topic, back to transfers.

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

Man these days it's boring to be a Rabobank fan, they hardly sing any new riders! I really wish they would focus a little bit more on signing foreign talent instead of focusing so much on Dutch riders.

Call me crazy but I love the focus on dutch youth.
I am fine with the lack of foriegn transfers. Not that there was a lack.

Anyway they are doing prety fine GC wise, good results all year round. Tour was dissapointing for them, but they had little luck.

 

[Swede1]

Is the Velits to Quick Step a good move for Peter Velits's GC ambitions. Is Quick Step a good place for him to grow as a GC rider?

 

[LukeSchmid]

Is the Velits to Quick Step a good move for Peter Velits's GC ambitions. Is Quick Step a good place for him to grow as a GC rider?

I don't think it could be any worse than HTC and their constant support for Cavendish. With the merger with Omega Pharma it depends a bit who is joining, if Jurgen van den Broeck ends up in the merged team then he would be the main team GC leader.

 

[just some guy]

I don't think it could be any worse than HTC and their constant support for Cavendish. With the merger with Omega Pharma it depends a bit who is joining, if Jurgen van den Broeck ends up in the merged team then he would be the main team GC leader.

As Jurgen is another I only ride in July Type there will be 2 other GT and many stage races to go around with guys like Jelle, De Weert and the Velits brothers able to fill their boots

The problem is Quickstep riders may have to lose some of their flare now and for that matter the old OPL riders.

But this who thing is a massive mess - you could end up with a few riders riding for a team as "leaders" that they don´t want to ride for..........

 

[ingsve]

Alexander Kristoff says he is not on the list of riders BMC has for next season so he is currently talking to other teams. I think i would be good for him to find a good Pro Continental team where he can ride some smaller races and get a few wins rather than finish 2-5th against WT opponents.

 

[LukeSchmid]

As Jurgen is another I only ride in July Type there will be 2 other GT and many stage races to go around with guys like Jelle, De Weert and the Velits brothers able to fill their boots

The problem is Quickstep riders may have to lose some of their flare now and for that matter the old OPL riders.

But this who thing is a massive mess - you could end up with a few riders riding for a team as "leaders" that they don´t want to ride for..........

It is certainly true that the whole thing is a massive mess, it seems that there is something like 60 riders to fit into 30.

 

[LukeSchmid]

Alexander Kristoff says he is not on the list of riders BMC has for next season so he is currently talking to other teams. I think i would be good for him to find a good Pro Continental team where he can ride some smaller races and get a few wins rather than finish 2-5th against WT opponents.

Agree entirely. If he can start winning races at a lower level regularly he might get a second chance in a few years.

 

[ingsve]

Agree entirely. If he can start winning races at a lower level regularly he might get a second chance in a few years.

And it's not like the program of a Pro Continental team is that much different than a WT team anyway. Obviously the WT races won't be there but 70% of the season is 2.1 and 2.HC races and those are full of Pro Conti teams.

 

[boomcie]

Sébastien Rosseler going to Garmin for two years.

(Source: VRT teletekst)

 

[buenahora]

El Fares, Keukeleire (both courted by WT-teams) leaving Cofidis (source: Velo-Club.net). Cusin, Ista leaving as well. Kriit, Labbe might also leave.

Plus I thinks Geox mentioned last year that Argentinian Daniel Diaz would join them in 2012. Guess that one is fairly certain already?

Larsson will leave Saxo Bank, rumours have him joining Sky and Leopard.

 

[buenahora]

Does someone have an overview of all Quick Step-riders and their respective contract endings?

 

[auscyclefan94]

Alexander Kristoff says he is not on the list of riders BMC has for next season so he is currently talking to other teams. I think i would be good for him to find a good Pro Continental team where he can ride some smaller races and get a few wins rather than finish 2-5th against WT opponents.

- They are not resigning him? Alex is leaving BMC! What a shame! I guess with young talent in Blythe coming to BMC he may have no place in their future plans.

 

[theyoungest]

- They are not resigning him? Alex is leaving BMC! What a shame! I guess with young talent in Blythe coming to BMC he may have no place in their future plans.

I get the feeling that as of next season, TGAK won't be so Great anymore...

 

[auscyclefan94]

I get the feeling that as of next season, TGAK won't be so Great anymore...

It will be TGAB (The Great Adam Blythe), Fill Gil and BAMF who will replace TGAK's hole at BMC!

 

[Michele]

El Fares, Keukeleire (both courted by WT-teams) leaving Cofidis (source: Velo-Club.net). Cusin, Ista leaving as well. Kriit, Labbe might also leave.

Any rumor about where he might end?

 

[ingsve]

- They are not resigning him? Alex is leaving BMC! What a shame! I guess with young talent in Blythe coming to BMC he may have no place in their future plans.

Well, he had a slight caveat in that when he spoke to the team about this it was before his recent podiums so perhaps there is a chance they have changed their minds. With all the riders that are rumored to be going to BMC though it makes sense that any rider that is at the end of their contract is in danger no matter what almost.