Transfers and Rumours 2011 > 2012

[Sophistic]

as tough as cycling is, guys like Conti and AS are so talented that they dont need to train close to 100% to be better than 50% of the peloton.

 

[just some guy]

as tough as cycling is, guys like Conti and AS are so talented that they dont need to train close to 100% to be better than 50% of the peloton.

I bet you Contador trains much harder than Andy - he wants it bad he is a born winner. Contador wants to the best stage racer in the history of the sport.

Andy wants to win the Tour - Once.

Contador nearly had his career and life almost taken from him in a crash - he knows what cycling means to him.

Andy expects cycling to give to him.

They are not the same - I wish ASO would make it harder for Andy to win. ie 2 ITT´s - be the best thing for his career - he will realise that Cycling does not owe him anything, he owes it too himself to get the most out of his career.

 

[Praetor]

Hushovd is a way better cyclist than Pozzato. 10 Tour stages(including a cobbled one), has worn the yellow jersey, 2 point jerseys in the Tour and one in the Vuelta, Omloop het Volk, Gent-Wevelgem, World championship.

Filippo Pozzato only has Milan-San Remo and the Omloop het Volk. And despite his talent he hardly ever wins a race...

Both of them have lost victories by overfocusing on the more obvious favorites like Cancellara, Boonen or Gilbert. As long as they keep doing that, I'd be quite happy if they keep disappointing in the classics, since they don't deserve to win anyway if they use their considerable talents for defensive racing only.

 

[hrotha]

I think Pozzato might be more talented, but Hushovd makes the most out of it because he's smart and he remains focused.

 

[luckyboy]

Contador nearly had his career and life almost taken from him in a crash - he knows what cycling means to him.

Hey Andy had that tooth infection

 

[just some guy]

Hey Andy had that tooth infection

Sorry ..........

 

[Nielsa]

since they don't deserve to win anyway if they use their considerable talents for defensive racing only.

I remember the 90's, some of the Norwegian media was saying the same about cross-country skiers like Cristian Zorzi.
Then Northug came along, the most Machiavellian skier ever, and suddenly the media thought it was OK to "ski-suck" to the finish and win the race in a sprint.

So, for me... you do what you can to win and if you win, you deserve it. Neither Hushovd nor Pozzato can win P-R or RVV by attacking Cancellara and Boonen from 30km out. Evans can't win the TdF by attacking Contador on a mountain. So they ride to win.

 

[VeloCity]

Andy expects cycling to give to him.

And you know that how?

I bet Andy trains just as hard as Contador and wants to win just as bad as Contador. I doubt he'd be at the tip-top of his profession if he didn't.

 

[luckyboy]

I doubt he'd be at the tip-top of his profession if he didn't.

2nd place isn't quite tip top

 

[just some guy]

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/lefevere-confirms-that-leipheimer-will-ride-for-omega-pharma-quickstep

Levi to OPQS official enough

and Bak to Lotto from the sound of things

 

[just some guy]

And you know that how?

I bet Andy trains just as hard as Contador and wants to win just as bad as Contador. I doubt he'd be at the tip-top of his profession if he didn't.

The view I get from interviews - He has too much talent to let it slip

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

And you know that how?

I bet Andy trains just as hard as Contador and wants to win just as bad as Contador. I doubt he'd be at the tip-top of his profession if he didn't.

I guess that is why andy soft peddles in every other race.
People are misinterpreting some of the points being made.

 

[Duartista]

Andy is quite open about the fact that he doesn't train as hard as Frank, so it's not too much of a stretch to say he probably doesn't train as hard as some other contenders either.

 

[Moncoutie]

I bet you Contador trains much harder than Andy - he wants it bad he is a born winner. Contador wants to the best stage racer in the history of the sport.

Andy wants to win the Tour - Once.

Contador nearly had his career and life almost taken from him in a crash - he knows what cycling means to him.

Andy expects cycling to give to him.

They are not the same - I wish ASO would make it harder for Andy to win. ie 2 ITT´s - be the best thing for his career - he will realise that Cycling does not owe him anything, he owes it too himself to get the most out of his career.

Sounds about right.

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

Andy is quite open about the fact that he doesn't train as hard as Frank, so it's not too much of a stretch to say he probably doesn't train as hard as some other contenders either.

Riis on schleck (last year)

"Contador always gives the maximum possible to in all the races he takes part in," said Riis. "While Andy, as we have seen here in the Vuelta, has a completely different mentality."

I actually remember reading that andy was a little wilder and less dedicated. Certainly in regards to his mentality in season-round races.

 

[Parrulo]

also the rumours of andy spending the off season partying hard with them boozes and ladies. . . .

 

[roundabout]

I guess that is why andy soft peddles in every other race.
People are misinterpreting some of the points being made.

So the question is does he not try on purpose?

I don't think so. Not in 2011 races that I have seen ride.

 

[dlwssonic]

also the rumours of andy spending the off season partying hard with them boozes and ladies. . . .

Poor ladies...

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

So the question is does he not try on purpose?

I don't think so. Not in 2011 races that I have seen ride.

why? because he goes on a half arsed attack when he is already 20 minutes down on the gc? I doubt he has really cared. Riis's comments in the past has indicated that andy didn't give it 100% it lots of races he rode in.

 

[Moncoutie]

Poor ladies...

Haha thats what I thought! But maybe women in Luxembourg like odd looking anorexic men???

 

[roundabout]

why? because he goes on a half arsed attack when he is already 20 minutes down on the gc? I doubt he has really cared. Riis's comments in the past has indicated that andy didn't give it 100% it lots of races he rode in.

Erm, no. But it's probably easier to follow own preconceived notions instead of actually watching the races.

 

[Forunculo]

also the rumours of andy spending the off season partying hard with them boozes and ladies. . . .

In Vuelta 2010 he did a great performance in spanish pubs alongside Stuart

 

[Duartista]

His version is that he cannot train as hard as his brother because he is younger, so he needs racing to get into top form. I think his relative weakness in races outside of the Tour and the Ardennes week is because he is not in form and is using them for training, rather than that he isn't trying.

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

Erm, no. But it's probably easier to follow own preconceived notions instead of actually watching the races.

you seem to be doing an excellent job at that

 

[Midnightfright]

I thought this was the transfer rumours thread not the Baby Schleck trains hard or not rumours thread.