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Armchair Cyclist

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Hakkapelit said:
He made some comments that he had jokily gotten asked if he hasn't changed his passport already by teamates. I suppose many of the Kazakh-riders and staff are ethnically Russian.
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He is from Zuya, near Simferopol in Crimea, where the vast majority of the population voted for re-integration into Russia. He may of course be of minority opinion in that area, but he is far more likely to be of the majority opinion.
 
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Armchair cyclist said:
He is from Zuya, near Simferopol in Crimea, where the vast majority of the population voted for re-integration into Russia. He may of course be of minority opinion in that area, but he is far more likely to be of the majority opinion.
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Grivko feels Ukrainian not Russian.
 
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Armchair cyclist said:
He is from Zuya, near Simferopol in Crimea, where the vast majority of the population voted for re-integration into Russia. He may of course be of minority opinion in that area, but he is far more likely to be of the majority opinion.
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Well if you read what he has said, it's clearly not a pro russian stance.
 
Lexman

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It's funny to see that while everyone pleads for the internationalisation of cycling a lot of people cheer whenever teams or cyclists of their country are concerned

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a new dutch team with only dutch riders for example....:rolleyes:
 
SKSemtex

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Armchair cyclist said:
He is from Zuya, near Simferopol in Crimea, where the vast majority of the population voted for re-integration into Russia. He may of course be of minority opinion in that area, but he is far more likely to be of the majority opinion.
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In completely "free" and "democratic" election. :D

F...g occupants.
 
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Armchair cyclist said:
He is from Zuya, near Simferopol in Crimea, where the vast majority of the population voted for re-integration into Russia. He may of course be of minority opinion in that area, but he is far more likely to be of the majority opinion.
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Since the start of the race, Grivko has been in touch with his family. He explained that his sister and others have been asked to accept Russian passports but refused.

“I live with this situation with a lot of anger because I have the impression that they want to expel us from our home,” he added.

“The Russian dictatorship is installing themselves while I am cycling on the roads of the Tour de France.”


Read more at http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/raci...des-tour-de-france-130700#87MCKYOYjwkyMtED.99
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definitely minority
 
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Lexman said:
It's funny to see that while everyone pleads for the internationalisation of cycling a lot of people cheer whenever teams or cyclists of their country are concerned

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a new dutch team with only dutch riders for example....:rolleyes:
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It's supposed to become a kind of Dutch version of Topsport Vlaanderen... which is not a bad initiative, I guess. Somehow Boogerd still manages to position himself as the hero of Dutch cycling, and a sponsor fell for it.
 
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theyoungest said:
It's supposed to become a kind of Dutch version of Topsport Vlaanderen... which is not a bad initiative, I guess. Somehow Boogerd still manages to position himself as the hero of Dutch cycling, and a sponsor fell for it.
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Not every great manager was a superb cyclist. Maybe his skillset as a manager is above his riding skills? Only time will tell. I hate these prejudices before someone had the chance to show what he can do.
 
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Akuryo said:
So, with another leadout guy, does this mean the end for Steegmans after his comments during the national road race :confused:
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Damn I might have missed that. What did he say?
 
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BYOP88 said:
Damn I might have missed that. What did he say?
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Something like crap tactics from the team. Lefevere was not amused and said that Vermote and Steegmans "did not raise their chances of a new contract". Vermote got an extension ... :eek:
 
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Akuryo said:
Something like crap tactics from the team. Lefevere was not amused and said that Vermote and Steegmans "did not raise their chances of a new contract". Vermote got an extension ... :eek:
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That rings a bell, cheers.
 
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Lexman said:
It's funny to see that while everyone pleads for the internationalisation of cycling a lot of people cheer whenever teams or cyclists of their country are concerned

a new dutch team with only dutch riders for example....:rolleyes:
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Not that project orange makes my heart go pitter-patter, but I fail to see the contradiction?
 
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Franklin said:
Not that project orange makes my heart go pitter-patter, but I fail to see the contradiction?
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Well, once the team was announced and it's almost a national team, everyone in the Netherlands cries victory....

It seems in times of internationalisation everyone is turning homewards instead of turning his attention to the other countries
 
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thehook said:
If Steegmans is available. Would love to see TS sign him. Dude would be a huge help for Sagan on the cobbles.
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steegmans sucks on the cobbles. he can never place himself. he wpould be useless to sagan
 
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Armchair cyclist said:
If anyone had posted a link to that, I would have. I simply tried to inform the discussion by searching out the info that he is from Crimea. Thanks to MatParker for informing it further.
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To further inform you, the Crimean election was a sham. It's still unknown whether the votes really were counted since the election observers were a whos who of Europes far right. Also the Russians blocked all Ukrainian TV stations.

So whether Grivko is in a minority is also yet to be determined.
 
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Ryo Hazuki said:
I have no idea. but if there is any team who wants big uci points to get wt lciense he's the one to get
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Problem is that there isn't going to be competition for the WT spots. As far as I understand, only the Alonso team (of non-WT teams) is interested in getting a WT status. Cannondale will merger with Garmin, so the spot is open.

The only other team I think might want WT status would be Cofidis, but I really, really doubt that.
 
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ToreBear said:
To further inform you, the Crimean election was a sham. It's still unknown whether the votes really were counted since the election observers were a whos who of Europes far right. Also the Russians blocked all Ukrainian TV stations.
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I know it is linked to Grivko, but please no politics in the Pro Cycling part of this forum.
 
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