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Samamba said:
Mayomaniac said:
LaFlorecita said:
Oliwright said:
Where do u guys think the following riders will go:

Sagan? I have no clue because he must be demanding so much money! Who can afford him? Bahrain? Specialized are prepared to help pay his salary to keep him apparently.
Astana or Etixx
I think he'll only go to Astana if Slongo doesn't follow Nibali to his new team, he has already worked with Slongo for a few years and they know eachother well.
Etixx would probably work well with his riding style, the only problem would be Kittel at the Tour.

And Gaviria who will be stronger next year... Not a fan of Sagan, Kittel & Gaviria in the same team tbh.
Yeah, that would be a bit of a mess.
 
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If the Gazzetta is ok, it will be Astana for Sagan

It will be the more logic. Nibali will ride for Barhein. Boom maybe with Lotto-Jumbo.

Etixx have too much top riders.
 
Oliwright said:
Where do u guys think the following riders will go:

Sagan? I have no clue because he must be demanding so much money! Who can afford him? Bahrain? Specialized are prepared to help pay his salary to keep him apparently.

Cycling news says Trek have Degenkolb and Contador close. Alberto will need some climbing doms


Nieve? Nieve has a confirmed contract for 2016-2017 with Sky
 
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dirkprovin said:
StryderHells said:
dirkprovin said:
MatParker117 said:
Matthews is heading to Giant to replace Degenkolb.

WILL be interesting to see how this one will play out. Whilst Giant does make considerably more sense than either SKY or BMC, it will be interesting to see whether they can/will be able to deliver on their promises and give him the required level/quality of support.

If the rumours are true and Dagenkolb leaves taking with him a couple of support riders then that leaves room for them to sign some dedicated workhorses to look after Matthews, they also said they want to bring in riders to look after Dumoulin so looks like a descent size turnover of riders will be required. I wonder how long the contract with Alpecin is, they are a German company who came on board with Kittel and Dagenkolb spruiking the product and now both the German marquee riders will be riding elsewhere.

Very valid points, I too am wondering about the Alpecin deal with Kittel gone & Degenkolb apparently out the door. If this is drying up, where are the new $$$/euros coming from ?

I've been told that Alpecin can withdraw sponsorship if "the team focus changes significantly" so losing the 2 big Germans on the team would be that. Also in Germany there are rumours that Alpecin will join Bora - Argon 18 to help them step up to the World Tour
 
Posted about 6 weeks ago that Matthews was probably leaving OGE - Will be an interesting signing for Giant Alpecin as Matthews hasn't yet delivered on his potential.

Reckon OGE should go hard for Van marcke.
 
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MatParker117 said:
Alex47 said:
If the Gazzetta is ok, it will be Astana for Sagan

It will be the more logic. Nibali will ride for Barhein. Boom maybe with Lotto-Jumbo.

Etixx have too much top riders.

Astana might not be able to afford him, the Kazakh economy is in the toilet.
The price of corruption.
 
MatParker117 said:
Alex47 said:
If the Gazzetta is ok, it will be Astana for Sagan

It will be the more logic. Nibali will ride for Barhein. Boom maybe with Lotto-Jumbo.

Etixx have too much top riders.

Astana might not be able to afford him, the Kazakh economy is in the toilet.


So you keep saying... But really there is no smoke without fire no ?
Here is a thought tho maybe a skybot can answer?
If UK leave the EU what impact will that have on a UK registered team with foreigners ?
Thinking maybe not immigration issues but maybe financial/tax ?

Just a thought ?
 
Stilletto said:
MatParker117 said:
Alex47 said:
If the Gazzetta is ok, it will be Astana for Sagan

It will be the more logic. Nibali will ride for Barhein. Boom maybe with Lotto-Jumbo.

Etixx have too much top riders.

Astana might not be able to afford him, the Kazakh economy is in the toilet.


So you keep saying... But really there is no smoke without fire no ?
Here is a thought tho maybe a skybot can answer?
If UK leave the EU what impact will that have on a UK registered team with foreigners ?
Thinking maybe not immigration issues but maybe financial/tax ?

Just a thought ?

It will have very little impact in that regard.

The vote looks like a toss up, but even if exit wins it won't necessarily lead to exit actually happening. Even if an "exit" does happen it won't be a full exit from all of the EU's financial and economic deals and rules. And even if somehow there was a full exit the British government will look after the interests of the City of London first and foremost, which will mean protecting cross-border business deals and tax avoidance among other things.
 
Stilletto said:
MatParker117 said:
Alex47 said:
If the Gazzetta is ok, it will be Astana for Sagan

It will be the more logic. Nibali will ride for Barhein. Boom maybe with Lotto-Jumbo.

Etixx have too much top riders.

Astana might not be able to afford him, the Kazakh economy is in the toilet.


So you keep saying... But really there is no smoke without fire no ?
Here is a thought tho maybe a skybot can answer?
If UK leave the EU what impact will that have on a UK registered team with foreigners ?
Thinking maybe not immigration issues but maybe financial/tax ?

Just a thought ?

Little to none, Sky is committed through at least 2018 and the law regarding contractors won't change.
 
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MatParker117 said:
Alex47 said:
If the Gazzetta is ok, it will be Astana for Sagan

It will be the more logic. Nibali will ride for Barhein. Boom maybe with Lotto-Jumbo.

Etixx have too much top riders.

Astana might not be able to afford him, the Kazakh economy is in the toilet.

Yes, i am agree with you for the cut of the budget. It will be strange.

We will see. But the Gazzetta is generally well informed.

And if you take the 3 millions of Nibali, the departure of Boom….

Knowing that specialized will pay 50% of the salary, Astana will spend less money than Nibali lol

(sorry for my poor english… i'm french lol)
 
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MatParker117 said:
Brent Copeland will manage the Bahrain team and Merida might provide bikes which probably means farewell to Lampre. A lof that team will probably move to Bahrain but I could see Modolo drawing interest from BMC.
It would mean the last Italian WT team would be gone. Too sad. But maybe Basso/Contador could set one up next year.
 
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LaFlorecita said:
MatParker117 said:
Brent Copeland will manage the Bahrain team and Merida might provide bikes which probably means farewell to Lampre. A lof that team will probably move to Bahrain but I could see Modolo drawing interest from BMC.
It would mean the last Italian WT team would be gone. Too sad. But maybe Basso/Contador could set one up next year.

Although Astana (at least for now) and Trek are nearly Italian teams.
 
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LaFlorecita said:
MatParker117 said:
Brent Copeland will manage the Bahrain team and Merida might provide bikes which probably means farewell to Lampre. A lof that team will probably move to Bahrain but I could see Modolo drawing interest from BMC.
It would mean the last Italian WT team would be gone. Too sad. But maybe Basso/Contador could set one up next year.

Well assuming the Trek/Contador talk is a smokescreen which I think it is then Copeland and Merida leaving Lampre does open the door for Basso/Contador/Specialized to step in and take over the license. Also remember that Specialized might have worked a deal to move Merida to the Bahrain team as we should remember who makes Specialized bikes, that's right it's Merida.
I might be overreaching in my thoughts here but it's certainly a possibility
 
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SafeBet said:
MatParker117 said:
SafeBet said:
It's not like Lampre oozes with good climbing domestiques either.

Niemeic, Costa, Meinjtes, Durasek.
Rui Costa is not a domestique. Never has been and never will. Meintjes was bought to be a captain, I doubt they would use him as a slave, but ok. Niemec can probably outclimb his grandma on a good day at the moment and he's not getting younger. Durasek is the only sensible call.

LaFlorecita said:
And Petilli, Ulissi, Koshevoy, Polanc.
Can't be much worse than the current Tinkoff team
Good luck having Ulissi work for somebody else. The other 3 are actually promising climbers, I'll give you that, but there's no Kreuziger in that roster. And surely nobody who can work on the flat as some Tinkoff riders.

I'm sure if Contador went to an Italian team he could entice riders like Boaro and Bennati to come along. I was going to say Tosatto as well, but don't know whether he'd want to ride another year. That would solve Lampre's problems on the flats, whilst Trek would have probably tell riders like Stuyven to be a flat domestique.
 
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greenedge said:
I'm sure if Contador went to an Italian team he could entice riders like Boaro and Bennati to come along. I was going to say Tosatto as well, but don't know whether he'd want to ride another year. That would solve Lampre's problems on the flats, whilst Trek would have probably tell riders like Stuyven to be a flat domestique.
Trek only has 5 riders signed for next year, 7 if you already want to include Contador and Degenkolb. So they'd have an opportunity to pretty much build a team from scratch.
 
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greenedge said:
True (especially in regards to Stuyven being expected to pull on the flat, Contador can get someone who is more willing to be a domestique to do a better job), but there is a case for stability as well.

If Sagan was willing to help Contador in the flat, I believe anyone else (bar GC contenders obv) would be too :p
 
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lenric said:
greenedge said:
True (especially in regards to Stuyven being expected to pull on the flat, Contador can get someone who is more willing to be a domestique to do a better job), but there is a case for stability as well.

If Sagan was willing to help Contador in the flat, I believe anyone else (bar GC contenders obv) would be too :p
Sagan maybe pulled once for Conta in Tdf, Stuyven could do the same if need be but they shouldn't be on the same schedule.