Transfers and Rumours 2016 > 2017

[roundabout]

Mollema almost confirmed to stay at Trek.

That's a bit surprising, but I suppose they value his 9th places in WT races higher than I do.

 

[MatParker117]

Re:

It's not like Lampre oozes with good climbing domestiques either.

Niemeic, Costa, Meinjtes, Durasek.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Re:

What's Frank Schleck status for 2017?

Bring back Andy too, let's see the Schleck brothers working for Contador.

That would be hilarious
Someone posted a while ago, we could see a "how's that coffee, Alberto?" commercial for Segafredo which would be cool.
But the team is still boring and without identity and it's the result of a merger between Lance's Radioshack and Schleck's Leopard so I'll never like Trek.

I am also confused why Trek wants to sign an aging GC star, I thought they went off the retirement home track a while ago.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Re: Re:

It's not like Lampre oozes with good climbing domestiques either.

Niemeic, Costa, Meinjtes, Durasek.

And Petilli, Ulissi, Koshevoy, Polanc.
Can't be much worse than the current Tinkoff team

 

[roundabout]

Re:

What's Frank Schleck status for 2017?

Bring back Andy too, let's see the Schleck brothers working for Contador.

Unless I missed the news last year, his contract should also be ending this year.

 

[Brullnux]

It's weird though how Guercilena has changed the teams indentity (whatever it is) to barely resembling RadioShack or Leopard.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

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Lampre and the Bahrain team will likely become one thing.

I don't believe that at all.

 

[roundabout]

For me any perceived change in identity has to do with blowing the depth they previously had and having a sprinter who the management thinks is worth being a priority for one GT a year (also as a result of having zero depth).

And yes, I know that Nizzolo won the points jersey twice.

 

[Brullnux]

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For me any perceived change in identity has to do with blowing the depth they previously had and having a sprinter who the management thinks is worth being a priority for one GT a year (also as a result of having zero depth).

And yes, I know that Nizzolo won the points jersey twice.

When (if) Degenkolb goes to Trek then it effectively becomes a team of not that fast sprinters who can climb a bit, ranging from Bonifazio and Nizzolo at one end, through Degenkolb and to Felline. Strong team for MSR and Gent-Wevelgem at least, if little else.

 

[SafeBet]

Re: Re:

It's not like Lampre oozes with good climbing domestiques either.

Niemeic, Costa, Meinjtes, Durasek.

Rui Costa is not a domestique. Never has been and never will. Meintjes was bought to be a captain, I doubt they would use him as a slave, but ok. Niemec can probably outclimb his grandma on a good day at the moment and he's not getting younger. Durasek is the only sensible call.

And Petilli, Ulissi, Koshevoy, Polanc.
Can't be much worse than the current Tinkoff team

Good luck having Ulissi work for somebody else. The other 3 are actually promising climbers, I'll give you that, but there's no Kreuziger in that roster. And surely nobody who can work on the flat as some Tinkoff riders.

 

[Brullnux]

Conti is a good rider, he's being going well in the Dauphine, has just done the Giro where he worked well for Ulissi and is only 23. But yeah, no big climber apart from maybe Meintjes who will be willing to work for anyone, and nobody on the flat now that Pozzato and Oliveira are gone.

 

[Kokoso]

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It's not like Lampre oozes with good climbing domestiques either.

Niemeic, Costa, Meinjtes, Durasek.

Koshevoy, Cattaneo, Costa, Petilli, Ulissi, Polanc.

 

[GenericBoonenFan]

Bono is also a very underrated rider

 

[SafeBet]

Fair enough. Lampre is the new Us Postal.

I'll have my popcorn ready come next June/July.

 

[Brullnux]

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Fair enough. Lampre is the new Us Postal.

I'll have my popcorn ready come next June/July.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Meintjes was signed to be a captain, yes, but if they have Alberto around for a year or two, there's no harm in learning from him. He's 24 years old, he's got time to grow yet. Help Contador in one GT, get leadership in another. Seems like a win-win. Ulissi and Costa are too selfish to really be helpers, yes, Niemiec is still of value as a lower slopes dom. Yes, he's old, but he was over 30 when he came to the WT level and doesn't have as many miles on the clock as many his age. He's not the rider he was five years ago for sure, but he can still fulfil a role. Polanc and Durašek are good, I rate Polanc in particular. Not to mention that signing Contador probably means Jesús comes too. Got to keep the guy happy.

Otherwise, they'll probably spend most of the budget on Contador so they'd need to probably raid the U23 or the Italian ProConti ranks to find climbing helpers. Someone like Edward Ravasi would be useful to get their hands on if they can. Or since Lampre has its Portuguese connection, just go crazy signing Gustavo César and Rui Horner

 

[yaco]

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Katusha are soon to announe a major international sponsor, and GreenEdge are looking for a sponsor for 2018 onwards.

Gd news for Katusha should make them more international.
Means Gazrpom and them won't be merging then.

I imagine orica with 1.5 years notice should be able to find one.
They have an amazing palmares and a iron fist on most Australian riders, so another Sponsor from the southern hemisphere would make sense

OGE will be chasing Asian Dollars - There is a reason why they signed Lok.

Geniez would be a good get for OGE to boost their climbing squad.

Whilst they'd certainly be open to Asian dollars, the signing of Lok is not necessarily indicative of this. They've had Asian riders in the past (Beppu 2012-3 & a Korean stagiare Kang Yi Yong in 2013).

In an interview with SBS on the last stage of the Giro, Gerry Ryan (owner) indicated there are some new sponsorship deals in the pipeline. As to the scope of these, or whether any of these would step up to naming rights status, remains to be seen.

The following riders will be going off contract at the end of this year: Matthews, A & S Yates, Durbridge, Impey, Cort, Tzurruka, Ewan.

Will one or both Yates take the likely $$$$ from UK Postal with the potential downside of being relegated to grunt duty for their existing hierarchy ? Has the issue re Simon's TUE been the death warrant with regards any long term relationship with OGE ?

Matthews has an issue with Gerrans however where else would he be given the precedence that he has at OGE. Gerrans deal ends 2017 and given he will be 37, that may be over and out for him. Has to be likely that OGE will be working hard to resolve this in Matthews favour when it comes to the races in Europe.

Tzurruka ? Hard to know how much he really brings to the table.

Durbridge may well look for greater opportunities elsewhere as whilst he's shown some potential for cobbles; he's not exactly at the top of the pecking order at OGE. His ITT has also stagnated. Certainly has a big engine and great flatland "grunt" utility but he may want more.

Cort has been low key but impressive. Will be interesting to see whether he stays or goes. Would like to see him stay but he would probably like some further opportunities.

Impey is an "original" and is clearly at home at this team where he has clearly been appreciated for his work for others and he has also brought in his share of results. Almost certain to stay unless he gets some amazing offer from DD.

Ewan is certain to be retained ...... much as I would prefer it otherwise. The next couple of years may be interesting but unless he can develop a significantly larger engine and/or show greater ability to fend for himself; he may end up needing to find a new home. As it is at the moment, he is a very labour intensive sprinter when it comes to support and very much a bunch kick specialist. In a team that is pivoting towards GC at GTs, I'm not sure that they can afford him as well.

As usual a good post - Gotta say that Durbridge has impressed in 2016 - Rode a great race in Paris-Roubaix and would have finished top 10,except for two late punctures - Got his TT mojo back with a close third in today's Prologue at Suisse.

The rider under pressure is Docker - Good for a sprint train but unless he can finish a GC his future is in doubt - Geniez is on the market - Would provide excellent climbing support for GC.

Reckon Matthews is gone and probably one of the Yates boys.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Meintjes was signed to be a captain, yes, but if they have Alberto around for a year or two, there's no harm in learning from him. He's 24 years old, he's got time to grow yet. Help Contador in one GT, get leadership in another. Seems like a win-win. Ulissi and Costa are too selfish to really be helpers, yes, Niemiec is still of value as a lower slopes dom. Yes, he's old, but he was over 30 when he came to the WT level and doesn't have as many miles on the clock as many his age. He's not the rider he was five years ago for sure, but he can still fulfil a role. Polanc and Durašek are good, I rate Polanc in particular. Not to mention that signing Contador probably means Jesús comes too. Got to keep the guy happy.

Otherwise, they'll probably spend most of the budget on Contador so they'd need to probably raid the U23 or the Italian ProConti ranks to find climbing helpers. Someone like Edward Ravasi would be useful to get their hands on if they can. Or since Lampre has its Portuguese connection, just go crazy signing Gustavo César and Rui Horner

I think Lampre already has an agreememt with Rasavi for 2017 (as with Ganna and Consonni)

 

[Beech Mtn]

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http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/trek-segafredo-to-hold-contract-talks-with-contador-next-week/?utm_content=bufferb7304&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

Alberto said he wants to sign a contract before the Tour, Trek will meet with him to discuss a contract before the Tour: 1+1=2
Still hoping for Lampre

No way. If Lampre are going to be tied to the Bahrainian money, I don't want AC near the controversy. Last thing he needs is to be booed at the Tour teams presentation again.

 

[Beech Mtn]

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I assume Contador would also bring some guys from Tinkoff.

Yes, Hernandez and Paulinho
Hopefully they will just retire and he will being sort of useful, young riders like Hansen and Valgren but I doubt it.

If he has any sense, he should take Toso, assuming the old man isn't ready to retire yet.

 

[May0maniac]

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Meintjes was signed to be a captain, yes, but if they have Alberto around for a year or two, there's no harm in learning from him. He's 24 years old, he's got time to grow yet. Help Contador in one GT, get leadership in another. Seems like a win-win. Ulissi and Costa are too selfish to really be helpers, yes, Niemiec is still of value as a lower slopes dom. Yes, he's old, but he was over 30 when he came to the WT level and doesn't have as many miles on the clock as many his age. He's not the rider he was five years ago for sure, but he can still fulfil a role. Polanc and Durašek are good, I rate Polanc in particular. Not to mention that signing Contador probably means Jesús comes too. Got to keep the guy happy.

Otherwise, they'll probably spend most of the budget on Contador so they'd need to probably raid the U23 or the Italian ProConti ranks to find climbing helpers. Someone like Edward Ravasi would be useful to get their hands on if they can. Or since Lampre has its Portuguese connection, just go crazy signing Gustavo César and Rui Horner

I think Lampre already has an agreememt with Rasavi for 2017 (as with Ganna and Consonni)

Yeah, they signed a deal with Colpack, they are now their development/feeder team.
Edit: If Contador signs with Lampre he should bring Bennati back to Lampre.

 

[dirkprovin]

Re: Re:

Katusha are soon to announe a major international sponsor, and GreenEdge are looking for a sponsor for 2018 onwards.

Gd news for Katusha should make them more international.
Means Gazrpom and them won't be merging then.

I imagine orica with 1.5 years notice should be able to find one.
They have an amazing palmares and a iron fist on most Australian riders, so another Sponsor from the southern hemisphere would make sense

OGE will be chasing Asian Dollars - There is a reason why they signed Lok.

Geniez would be a good get for OGE to boost their climbing squad.

Whilst they'd certainly be open to Asian dollars, the signing of Lok is not necessarily indicative of this. They've had Asian riders in the past (Beppu 2012-3 & a Korean stagiare Kang Yi Yong in 2013).

In an interview with SBS on the last stage of the Giro, Gerry Ryan (owner) indicated there are some new sponsorship deals in the pipeline. As to the scope of these, or whether any of these would step up to naming rights status, remains to be seen.

The following riders will be going off contract at the end of this year: Matthews, A & S Yates, Durbridge, Impey, Cort, Tzurruka, Ewan.

Will one or both Yates take the likely $$$$ from UK Postal with the potential downside of being relegated to grunt duty for their existing hierarchy ? Has the issue re Simon's TUE been the death warrant with regards any long term relationship with OGE ?

Matthews has an issue with Gerrans however where else would he be given the precedence that he has at OGE. Gerrans deal ends 2017 and given he will be 37, that may be over and out for him. Has to be likely that OGE will be working hard to resolve this in Matthews favour when it comes to the races in Europe.

Tzurruka ? Hard to know how much he really brings to the table.

Durbridge may well look for greater opportunities elsewhere as whilst he's shown some potential for cobbles; he's not exactly at the top of the pecking order at OGE. His ITT has also stagnated. Certainly has a big engine and great flatland "grunt" utility but he may want more.

Cort has been low key but impressive. Will be interesting to see whether he stays or goes. Would like to see him stay but he would probably like some further opportunities.

Impey is an "original" and is clearly at home at this team where he has clearly been appreciated for his work for others and he has also brought in his share of results. Almost certain to stay unless he gets some amazing offer from DD.

Ewan is certain to be retained ...... much as I would prefer it otherwise. The next couple of years may be interesting but unless he can develop a significantly larger engine and/or show greater ability to fend for himself; he may end up needing to find a new home. As it is at the moment, he is a very labour intensive sprinter when it comes to support and very much a bunch kick specialist. In a team that is pivoting towards GC at GTs, I'm not sure that they can afford him as well.

As usual a good post - Gotta say that Durbridge has impressed in 2016 - Rode a great race in Paris-Roubaix and would have finished top 10,except for two late punctures - Got his TT mojo back with a close third in today's Prologue at Suisse.

The rider under pressure is Docker - Good for a sprint train but unless he can finish a GC his future is in doubt - Geniez is on the market - Would provide excellent climbing support for GC.

Reckon Matthews is gone and probably one of the Yates boys.

Docker provides useful grunt utility but I'll agree that he was be on the way out.

Geniez may be useful but does he have any English speaking capacity, or any interest in developing any ? Not very many French riders care to join non-French speaking teams.

Today's result may boost Durbridge's stocks. OGE certainly won't be ushering him out the door but he may look for more opportunities elsewhere.

The Yates twins .... will be interesting to see how that play out. Will they be thinking that with Chaves already showing himself as GC contender, they may be thinking they're now lower priority for OGE or maybe they aren't.

Not quite buying that Matthews is a certain exit. He's certainly up for a pay rise but OGE would almost certainly be putting up comparable $$ to his market value. Could other teams actually deliver on what they would promise re support/his precedence ?

Also not buying the argument that OGE hierarchy would back Gerrans over him going forward. They've proven pretty hard headed in the past in ushering non performing Aussies out the door and the fact is that Gerrans will be 37 next year, and no certainty to continue. Oh, they'd probably give him precedence for TdU if his form is OK but when it gets to Europe; Matthews is the guy who's likely to deliver the top end results in races like MSR, AGR & the Laurentian races so I see them NOT giving him up easily.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Re: Re:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/trek-segafredo-to-hold-contract-talks-with-contador-next-week/?utm_content=bufferb7304&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

Alberto said he wants to sign a contract before the Tour, Trek will meet with him to discuss a contract before the Tour: 1+1=2
Still hoping for Lampre

No way. If Lampre are going to be tied to the Bahrainian money, I don't want AC near the controversy. Last thing he needs is to be booed at the Tour teams presentation again.

Trying to remember where I wrote this, but I wrote somewhere that only Sky and Bahraini torture team would be worse than Trek I don't expect Lampre to team up with Bahrain

 

[MatParker117]

Re: Re:

uote="dirkprovin"]

Katusha are soon to announe a major international sponsor, and GreenEdge are looking for a sponsor for 2018 onwards.

Gd news for Katusha should make them more international.
Means Gazrpom and them won't be merging then.

I imagine orica with 1.5 years notice should be able to find one.
They have an amazing palmares and a iron fist on most Australian riders, so another Sponsor from the southern hemisphere would make sense

OGE will be chasing Asian Dollars - There is a reason why they signed Lok.

Geniez would be a good get for OGE to boost their climbing squad.

Whilst they'd certainly be open to Asian dollars, the signing of Lok is not necessarily indicative of this. They've had Asian riders in the past (Beppu 2012-3 & a Korean stagiare Kang Yi Yong in 2013).

In an interview with SBS on the last stage of the Giro, Gerry Ryan (owner) indicated there are some new sponsorship deals in the pipeline. As to the scope of these, or whether any of these would step up to naming rights status, remains to be seen.

The following riders will be going off contract at the end of this year: Matthews, A & S Yates, Durbridge, Impey, Cort, Tzurruka, Ewan.

Will one or both Yates take the likely $$$$ from UK Postal with the potential downside of being relegated to grunt duty for their existing hierarchy ? Has the issue re Simon's TUE been the death warrant with regards any long term relationship with OGE ?

Matthews has an issue with Gerrans however where else would he be given the precedence that he has at OGE. Gerrans deal ends 2017 and given he will be 37, that may be over and out for him. Has to be likely that OGE will be working hard to resolve this in Matthews favour when it comes to the races in Europe.

Tzurruka ? Hard to know how much he really brings to the table.

Durbridge may well look for greater opportunities elsewhere as whilst he's shown some potential for cobbles; he's not exactly at the top of the pecking order at OGE. His ITT has also stagnated. Certainly has a big engine and great flatland "grunt" utility but he may want more.

Cort has been low key but impressive. Will be interesting to see whether he stays or goes. Would like to see him stay but he would probably like some further opportunities.

Impey is an "original" and is clearly at home at this team where he has clearly been appreciated for his work for others and he has also brought in his share of results. Almost certain to stay unless he gets some amazing offer from DD.

Ewan is certain to be retained ...... much as I would prefer it otherwise. The next couple of years may be interesting but unless he can develop a significantly larger engine and/or show greater ability to fend for himself; he may end up needing to find a new home. As it is at the moment, he is a very labour intensive sprinter when it comes to support and very much a bunch kick specialist. In a team that is pivoting towards GC at GTs, I'm not sure that they can afford him as well.

As usual a good post - Gotta say that Durbridge has impressed in 2016 - Rode a great race in Paris-Roubaix and would have finished top 10,except for two late punctures - Got his TT mojo back with a close third in today's Prologue at Suisse.

The rider under pressure is Docker - Good for a sprint train but unless he can finish a GC his future is in doubt - Geniez is on the market - Would provide excellent climbing support for GC.

Reckon Matthews is gone and probably one of the Yates boys.

Docker provides useful grunt utility but I'll agree that he was be on the way out.

Geniez may be useful but does he have any English speaking capacity, or any interest in developing any ? Not very many French riders care to join non-French speaking teams.

Today's result may boost Durbridge's stocks. OGE certainly won't be ushering him out the door but he may look for more opportunities elsewhere.

The Yates twins .... will be interesting to see how that play out. Will they be thinking that with Chaves already showing himself as GC contender, they may be thinking they're now lower priority for OGE or maybe they aren't.

Not quite buying that Matthews is a certain exit. He's certainly up for a pay rise but OGE would almost certainly be putting up comparable $$ to his market value. Could other teams actually deliver on what they would promise re support/his precedence ?

Also not buying the argument that OGE hierarchy would back Gerrans over him going forward. They've proven pretty hard headed in the past in ushering non performing Aussies out the door and the fact is that Gerrans will be 37 next year, and no certainty to continue. Oh, they'd probably give him precedence for TdU if his form is OK but when it gets to Europe; Matthews is the guy who's likely to deliver the top end results in races like MSR, AGR & the Laurentian races so I see them NOT giving him up easily.[/quote]

BMC or Sky could in theory.

 

[StryderHells]

Re: Re:

Katusha are soon to announe a major international sponsor, and GreenEdge are looking for a sponsor for 2018 onwards.

Gd news for Katusha should make them more international.
Means Gazrpom and them won't be merging then.

I imagine orica with 1.5 years notice should be able to find one.
They have an amazing palmares and a iron fist on most Australian riders, so another Sponsor from the southern hemisphere would make sense

OGE will be chasing Asian Dollars - There is a reason why they signed Lok.

Geniez would be a good get for OGE to boost their climbing squad.

Whilst they'd certainly be open to Asian dollars, the signing of Lok is not necessarily indicative of this. They've had Asian riders in the past (Beppu 2012-3 & a Korean stagiare Kang Yi Yong in 2013).

In an interview with SBS on the last stage of the Giro, Gerry Ryan (owner) indicated there are some new sponsorship deals in the pipeline. As to the scope of these, or whether any of these would step up to naming rights status, remains to be seen.

The following riders will be going off contract at the end of this year: Matthews, A & S Yates, Durbridge, Impey, Cort, Tzurruka, Ewan.

Will one or both Yates take the likely $$$$ from UK Postal with the potential downside of being relegated to grunt duty for their existing hierarchy ? Has the issue re Simon's TUE been the death warrant with regards any long term relationship with OGE ?

Matthews has an issue with Gerrans however where else would he be given the precedence that he has at OGE. Gerrans deal ends 2017 and given he will be 37, that may be over and out for him. Has to be likely that OGE will be working hard to resolve this in Matthews favour when it comes to the races in Europe.

Tzurruka ? Hard to know how much he really brings to the table.

Durbridge may well look for greater opportunities elsewhere as whilst he's shown some potential for cobbles; he's not exactly at the top of the pecking order at OGE. His ITT has also stagnated. Certainly has a big engine and great flatland "grunt" utility but he may want more.

Cort has been low key but impressive. Will be interesting to see whether he stays or goes. Would like to see him stay but he would probably like some further opportunities.

Impey is an "original" and is clearly at home at this team where he has clearly been appreciated for his work for others and he has also brought in his share of results. Almost certain to stay unless he gets some amazing offer from DD.

Ewan is certain to be retained ...... much as I would prefer it otherwise. The next couple of years may be interesting but unless he can develop a significantly larger engine and/or show greater ability to fend for himself; he may end up needing to find a new home. As it is at the moment, he is a very labour intensive sprinter when it comes to support and very much a bunch kick specialist. In a team that is pivoting towards GC at GTs, I'm not sure that they can afford him as well.

As usual a good post - Gotta say that Durbridge has impressed in 2016 - Rode a great race in Paris-Roubaix and would have finished top 10,except for two late punctures - Got his TT mojo back with a close third in today's Prologue at Suisse.

The rider under pressure is Docker - Good for a sprint train but unless he can finish a GC his future is in doubt - Geniez is on the market - Would provide excellent climbing support for GC.

Reckon Matthews is gone and probably one of the Yates boys.

It wasn't much of a surprise to see Docker drop out of the Dauphine considering how badly he was injured at Roubaix, he did almost lose an eye so he's just not race fit. I do agree that it's a flip of the coin if he gets another contract.
Durbridge really has stepped back up this season and I'm sure OGE would want to re-sign him but he might be ready to look for opportunities elsewhere but they really should do what they can to keep him on board.
I really don't see Geniez going to OGE