Transfers and Rumours 2016 > 2017

[HelloDolly]

Landa to Bahrain ....makes sense now why they signed Anton

 

[Velolover2]

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Rumors of Landa not seeing out Sky contract and going to Bahrain. Interesting.

http://www.ciclo21.com/bahrain-sondea-su-futuro-con-mikel-landa/

That could be Poels's chance. He has wanted to lead Sky in the Giro for a couple of years now.

 

[StryderHells]

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Rumors of Landa not seeing out Sky contract and going to Bahrain. Interesting.

http://www.ciclo21.com/bahrain-sondea-su-futuro-con-mikel-landa/

That could be Poels's chance. He has wanted to lead Sky in the Giro for a couple of years now.

Even if Landa stays Poels's would go into the Giro as joint leader, Landa is fragile and Poels's has earnt his chance even if it's a forlorn chance as I don't think he's got what's it takes to win a GT

 

[GP Blanco]

According to De Telegraaf Van Asbroeck (lotto-jumbo) will follow Vanmarcke to Cannondale-Drapac.
http://m.telegraaf.nl/telesport/wielersport/article/26664849/ook-van-asbroeck-vertrekt-bij-lotto-jumbo

 

[staubsauger]

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Rumors of Landa not seeing out Sky contract and going to Bahrain. Interesting.

http://www.ciclo21.com/bahrain-sondea-su-futuro-con-mikel-landa/

Beppe Conti even talked about him returning to Astana, but that's probably just some Beppe Conti BS.

I told ya!

Movistar would be the ideal destination, though!

If Landa goes to Bahrein I conclude it means that Nibali rides the Tour again, Landa leads them at the Giro and Bahrein secures a world tour spot for 2017.

 

[Netserk]

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What the Bahrein move or the Astana move. Neither are teams where he'd be likely to lead the Giro after the season he had this year.

Nibali to win the Giro and the Landa is released for the Tour!

 

[Brullnux]

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Rumors of Landa not seeing out Sky contract and going to Bahrain. Interesting.

http://www.ciclo21.com/bahrain-sondea-su-futuro-con-mikel-landa/

Beppe Conti even talked about him returning to Astana, but that's probably just some Beppe Conti BS.

I told ya!

Movistar would be the ideal destination, though!

If Landa goes to Bahrein I conclude it means that Nibali rides the Tour again, Landa leads them at the Giro and Bahrein secures a world tour spot for 2017.

Why? Nibali surely wants to do the Giro. He has shown no interest in the Tour at all since 2015, and leaving Astana he has all the freedom to do whatever he wants, especially as the sponsor is his friend. Landa will do the Tour and go for stage wins and the KoM, or a good GC performance. Visconti has already basically confirmed Nibali's presence, and with the Giro probably going to Messina it would basically be treason if he doesn't go. There is no reason for the system to always be when there are two good GC guys that the number 1 goes to the Tour and no 2 to the Giro. This mentality (exacerbated in part by Sky) undermines and belittles the Giro. I think Netserk is right.

 

[carolina]

andré cardoso to trek-segafredo.

 

[BigMac]

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andré cardoso to trek-segafredo.

A good and loyal domestique for Contador who can actually endure the mountains. Great signing.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Interesting signing. Not sure how good he is, don't remember anything outstanding.

 

[TMP402]

Kilian Frankiny to BMC from their development team

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/bmc-promote-kilian-frankiny-from-development-squad-to-worldtour/

 

[Brullnux]

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Interesting signing. Not sure how good he is, don't remember anything outstanding.

Decent, is consistently in or around the top 20 in GCs, and usually does it helping someone else (Uran, Hesjedal). Not as strong as the likes of Poels, but will almost definitely be there when the peloton is only 15 man strong.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Interesting signing. Not sure how good he is, don't remember anything outstanding.

Decent, is consistently in or around the top 20 in GCs, and usually does it helping someone else (Uran, Hesjedal). Not as strong as the likes of Poels, but will almost definitely be there when the peloton is only 15 man strong.

Thanks, so he is very consistent, that's good

 

[Roku]

Cardoso excels in recovery. He is very good in the third week of GTs, when others usually fade. So-so rider in week long races, unless they feature real mountain stages with heavy climbing. He won't be of much help to Contador though, I guess he will be doing Giro + Vuelta as usual.

 

[Anderis]

Cardoso is really, really consistent rider. Started in 7 GTs, finished all of them in the top25 overall. In the last 4 or 5 years he finished pretty much his every race with decent amount of climbing inside top50.

His skillset is quite limited, though. He has never come close to winning even from a breakaway at a WT level. He is not explosive, not good on flat, downhill etc. He can't do that much for his leader apart from staying with him in the big mountains. And he is not much of an asset in TTTs.

But definetely a good signing for any team which struggles with climbing power.

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

I agree with Anderis assessment. Cardoso is the epitome of a what you see is what you get rider. He rides at his level every time. He's not good enough to win races, but he is always one of the best 20 or so climbers in every race he is in. His skillset is what it is: no explosivity, no good at anything except climbing, but he can stick around until late on day after day.

He's an old school career domestique and will rarely do anything that gets screen time, but he's a very useful addition to any squad. He always shows up to work and he never, ever, places his own ambitions ahead of his leader because he doesn't have any ambitions of his own. I really like the guy and I hope he's finally getting a chance to ride the Tour.

 

[KGB]

Good news for Mollema.Finally he has decent helpers.With Contador and Cardoso he could be next year in top 5?

 

[BigMac]

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I agree with Anderis assessment. Cardoso is the epitome of a what you see is what you get rider. He rides at his level every time. He's not good enough to win races, but he is always one of the best 20 or so climbers in every race he is in. His skillset is what it is: no explosivity, no good at anything except climbing, but he can stick around until late on day after day.

He's an old school career domestique and will rarely do anything that gets screen time, but he's a very useful addition to any squad. He always shows up to work and he never, ever, places his own ambitions ahead of his leader because he doesn't have any ambitions of his own. I really like the guy and I hope he's finally getting a chance to ride the Tour.

If the route features a TTT they might think he compromises there and therefore leave him out. I could understand.

 

[Ricco']

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He has never come close to winning even from a breakaway at a WT level.

Angliru 2013. Second from the break, only after Elissonde. Arrived with the GC guys (I think he was caught by the Nibali group right in the finish).

 

[Anderis]

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He has never come close to winning even from a breakaway at a WT level.

Angliru 2013. Second from the break, only after Elissonde. Arrived with the GC guys (I think he was caught by the Nibali group right in the finish).

He was 54 seconds behind Elissonde, I wouldn't call that close.

He was also the best of the breakaway on one of the 2014 Giro stages, but got caught by GC riders quite early on the final climb.

 

[TMP402]

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Cardoso is really, really consistent rider. Started in 7 GTs, finished all of them in the top25 overall. In the last 4 or 5 years he finished pretty much his every race with decent amount of climbing inside top50.

He's even consistent at World RRs: top 20s in 09 and 10.

 

[Nirvana]

Troia and Consonni to Lampre
http://www.teamlampremerida.com/2016/09/consonni-2/

 

[MikeTichondrius]

I agree with Anderis assessment. Cardoso is the epitome of a what you see is what you get rider. He rides at his level every time. He's not good enough to win races, but he is always one of the best 20 or so climbers in every race he is in. His skillset is what it is: no explosivity, no good at anything except climbing, but he can stick around until late on day after day.

He's an old school career domestique and will rarely do anything that gets screen time, but he's a very useful addition to any squad. He always shows up to work and he never, ever, places his own ambitions ahead of his leader because he doesn't have any ambitions of his own. I really like the guy and I hope he's finally getting a chance to ride the Tour.

Man I've followed Cardoso's career for a while but never put everything together - He's basically the second coming of Sensei Haimar.

 

[filipepc]

As Portuguese i know a little bit of Cardoso.

He is not a top guy, not even a great rider. Even in Portuguese races he wasn´t a winner, so, don´t expect miracles.

But he´s consistent and his results in GT´S proove 2 things: First he can do a top 20 in them, what tell us that he is a good rider at least, and second, that he use to finish all, what is very good.

To mee he can be important to contador as the guy that iniciates de rythym in the beginning of the climb and accelarate for 2 or 3 km´s. He can do that, then don´t expect much more from him...

but look to the results:
- giro: 20, 21, 14
- vuelta: 21, 16, 25, 18

It´s not bad for a domestique if spent his energies to his leader.

 

[May0maniac]

Any rumours about Marcato? He's one of those guys that Bora should try to sign, he'd be a great superdomestique for Sagan inthe spring classics.